So... what now? Season is over and Hart broke our hearts.

[AerchAngel]

I will finish YNOT when I can type with my left hand. They botched the IV for anesthesia (Ulna nerve issues) so I am henpecking that is why I don't post. Nevermind me.

Hart bringing him back means Bobby had some say so in it meaning our hitting coaches will be back. I guess they think they can turn this around.

What do you think about it?

We need new coaches to fix Simmons and Freeman, 144 k's is a lot for a pure hitter that we thought. Heyward k's were less than a hundred but his homers were way down, so how do we approach that?

I do think BJ will be better next year, just a feeling I have unless someone takes him which I would gladly do. I would eat CJ contract and give him away, I do not like him at all.

If an AL team want Gattis, ship him please. He doesn't adjust enough for me.

[bravesfanforlife88]

I will finish YNOT when I can type with my left hand. They botched the IV for anesthesia (Ulna nerve issues) so I am henpecking that is why I don't post. Nevermind me.

Hart bringing him back means Bobby had some say so in it meaning our hitting coaches will be back. I guess they think they can turn this around.

What do you think about it?

We need new coaches to fix Simmons and Freeman, 144 k's is a lot for a pure hitter that we thought. Heyward k's were less than a hundred but his homers were way down, so how do we approach that?

I do think BJ will be better next year, just a feeling I have unless someone takes him which I would gladly do. I would eat CJ contract and give him away, I do not like him at all.

If an AL team want Gattis, ship him please. He doesn't adjust enough for me.

If most our pitchers need tommy john, why not our YNOT creator/leader?

[zitothebrave]

My opinion is simple, if we bring Frediot back, we don't care about winning. If we don't care about winning, we won't win. Maybe we'll sneak into the playoffs, then we'lll be bounced from a 1 game series because he did something dumb like start a veteran because it's high pressure instead of Julio or Wood.

[cajunrevenge]

People are being over dramatic about Fredi coming back. We will never have a manager who manages like we want him to.

[The Chosen One]

My opinion is simple, if we bring Frediot back, we don't care about winning. If we don't care about winning, we won't win. Maybe we'll sneak into the playoffs, then we'lll be bounced from a 1 game series because he did something dumb like start a veteran because it's high pressure instead of Julio or Wood.

He started Medlen in the WC game in 2012 over Hudson and Game 1 of the NLDS last year. Minor after him. Ironically the game we should've won was the one Garcia pitched. That was a ballsy move that actually paid off but I didn't see anybody giving him credit for that either.

[Dalyn]

People are being over dramatic about Fredi coming back. We will never have a manager who manages like we want him to.

We used to. At least for me.

[Runnin]

People are being over dramatic about Fredi coming back. We will never have a manager who manages like we want him to.

Be careful not to condemn alone that which please all.

[CyYoung31]

We used to. At least for me.

Word.

[cajunrevenge]

Bobby did the same **** he just had a magic touch that turned players into gold.

[keithlaw]

Bobby did the same **** he just had a magic touch that turned players into gold.

To be honest Bobby was a much worse tactical manager than Fredi. Fredi makes dumb lineups, but hes never done anything as dumb as giving Garrett Anderson 550 PA.

[AerchAngel]

some part of me don't mind Fredi (BJ in the lineup at leadoff had to come from higher ups and not his decision, there is no other way to explain it and the fact that C "K or DP" J was in there a lot), but our hitting coaches have to go. Freeman has no business striking out almost 150 times or Simmons popping up or hitting into DP's at a astounding rate. No player adjusted throughout the year.

They sat on their ass and collected a paycheck. Hell, some of you on here can do better than them.

[zitothebrave]

To be honest Bobby was a much worse tactical manager than Fredi. Fredi makes dumb lineups, but hes never done anything as dumb as giving Garrett Anderson 550 PA.

BObby made some very questionable moves. But he won, and won a lot. I don't think Fredi takes the 2004 or 2005 Braves to the postseason. Bobby was masterful in his maximization that season. His flaw was he bought into the baseball tropes way too often. Veterans perform in the clutch, some guys are "professional hitters" and so on so forth. Anderson was a trainwreck, didn't hit enough offensively and was a butcher defensively, but that 2009 team had a really ****ty OF, so I can understand why Anderson got as much PT as he did. Our OFs that year were Francouer who was traded for Church, Diaz, Anderson,and Schafer who went down and was replaced by McLouth.

My bitch with Bobby that year was the fact that when it was evident that Prado could play, that he didn't move KJ to LF. Not that Kelly was ripping the cover off the ball, but he wouldn't have been a butcher in LF and could have beena better platoon partner for Diaz.

[ESP47]

I will finish YNOT when I can type with my left hand. They botched the IV for anesthesia (Ulna nerve issues) so I am henpecking that is why I don't post. Nevermind me.

Hart bringing him back means Bobby had some say so in it meaning our hitting coaches will be back. I guess they think they can turn this around.

What do you think about it?

We need new coaches to fix Simmons and Freeman, 144 k's is a lot for a pure hitter that we thought. Heyward k's were less than a hundred but his homers were way down, so how do we approach that?

I do think BJ will be better next year, just a feeling I have unless someone takes him which I would gladly do. I would eat CJ contract and give him away, I do not like him at all.

If an AL team want Gattis, ship him please. He doesn't adjust enough for me.

Who cares of Gattis doesn't adjust enough. He hit 20+ homers with an .800+ OPS in less than 400 at bats. Where else are you going to find a catcher who does that at league minimum?

Whats your plan? Trot out Bethancourt's sub .600 OPS and then sign one of the many outstanding free agent catchers who are going to be on the market for less than a million a year?

[zitothebrave]

I never got the Trade Gattis crowd. I mean I'd trade him but he's well down on the list of guys I'd trade. Sad that I think the FO has a similar thought process. CB is the catcher of the future so lets trade one of our best players and hope CB amounts to more than Henry Blanco.

[emk418]

Ron Gardenhire was just let go. Please please please fire fredi now and hire Ron.

[CrimsonCowboy]

David O'Brien @DOBrienAJC · 39m
From our meeting with #Braves manager today, sounds like no staff changes announced until at least Wed. when Hart meets a/ Fredi & coaches

[AerchAngel]

David O'Brien @DOBrienAJC · 39m
From our meeting with #Braves manager today, sounds like no staff changes announced until at least Wed. when Hart meets a/ Fredi & coaches

I will be sitting pins and needles. Please keep Bobby Cox away from that meeting.

[cajunrevenge]

I would say getting a good hitting coach is more important than replacing Fredi.

[Heyward]

He started Medlen in the WC game in 2012 over Hudson and Game 1 of the NLDS last year. Minor after him. Ironically the game we should've won was the one Garcia pitched. That was a ballsy move that actually paid off but I didn't see anybody giving him credit for that either.

Umm Medlen was pitching out of his mind.

That was absolutely the right move to pitch Medlen in the WC game.

[Heyward]

I hope we fire Fredi, still miss the playoffs so i can see what excuses yall will make.

Firing Fredi isnt going to make a dramatic difference.