So Maddon is leaving the Rays which means if we would have let FG go like we should have we could have had a shot at Maddon.
Who is a genius compared to FG.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11754873/tampa-bay-rays-manager-joe-maddon-exercises-opt-clause-leaving-team
Last edited by Braves78; 10-24-2014 at 01:11 PM.
goldfly (10-24-2014)
People act like this guy walks on water for some reason.
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If BJ of all players doesn't have a week for the ages --- who is Joe Maddon?
He says some cool **** to the press but his in game management isn't that different than Fredi . Players get out of Tampa tout suite. No home town discounts to stay and win under Maddon.
after growing up watching Gene Mauch am very leery of press proclaimed "managerial genius'" . LAst one Braves had ????? Chuck Tanner - remember?
We are going to keep fredi when Joe is out there and available. Awful
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jason27nc (10-24-2014)
What about Longoria's extremely team friendly contract????Originally Posted by 57Brave
Maddon is nothing special. A manager is only as good as his talent. Some of you just can't let go of the Fredi hate.
There are things all managers do in much the same way. It is why many people can't tell the difference between a good manager, average manager, and a bad manager. It's the few--often very subtle or behind the scenes--things managers do different--or just much better--that separates them. Maddon does those things at a higher level than Fredi, but it is a pointless discussion. The Braves would've never hired him.
Metaphysicist (10-25-2014)
Ok, I'll play your silly game. If a manager is only as good as his talent, why even have one? If you knew anything about coaching at all, you would know that a good manager gets the best out of his players. I can take a average team and coach circles around a lot of coaches with better talent.
Bobby or Maddon?
Anyway, no one could have seen this coming. The Braves would likely have hired a new manager by now if Fredi had been let go.
We have yet to hire an actual gm
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So we're going to blame Bobby Cox for Fredi Gonzalez not being fired in favor of hiring Joe Maddon.........................Even though nobody outside Tampa knew Maddon was available until about four hours ago.
Really? Come on now
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50PoundHead (10-24-2014), Dalyn (10-24-2014), Metaphysicist (10-25-2014)
Yes and no. We blame Bobby for Fredi not being fired but there is no way he knew Joe Maddon would be available. Plus, had Fredi been fired we may have already hired someone by now. So this thread is irrelevant.
I will
We put support behind fredi for no reason
Said it would be the new gms choice ( we still don't have one and seems we aren't going to get one either)
So, if bobby wasn't around and we fired fredi. We wouldn't hire a manager till after the World Series and joe maddon is sitting out there available
Instead we are stuck with fredi
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Hey does compared to FG. Im not saying he is the best ever but if not for Cox we could have potentially had a huge upgrade.
Braves1976 (10-24-2014), jason27nc (10-24-2014)
He opted out of his contract, but he is still managing the Rays in 2015.
Edit: scratch that, I misread the sentence. It says he will manage a team in 2015. Damn, he would have been great to get.
Last edited by Enscheff; 10-24-2014 at 01:40 PM.
bravesnumberone (10-24-2014), jason27nc (10-24-2014)
How I'd love to have him coaching this team over Fredi!
Why?
I'd love to have Stoya manage this team but, I can't give you a good reas... yes I can
For futures Jay, when discussing MLB they are called managers . Coaches collect the balls after BP, and throw BP and are usually no more than well paid travel companions
For those that asked, how was it Cox fault that FG is still here. Well if you don't believe the the reason FG still has a job is because of Cox I have a bridge to sell. It was clear Cox was behind him when he said FG had done an outstanding job it was just another example average being outstanding in Cox eyes. As for those that think a manager doesn't matter and therefore FG is as good as Maddon I still have that bridge for sale.
Why would we have hired a manager after the Series? Did Texas wait to hire their new manager?
See who is available
it is absurd to not kick the tires with Maddon though
even dumber to just stay with Fredi for one more year to see how he does when Maddon becomes available.
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