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Thread: Braves trade Kyle Wren to Brewers for RHP Zach Quintana

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJ9 View Post
    Baseball America on Quintana: "Quintana developed the reputation for pitching away from contact and has little to no projection remaining, even at just 20. His secondary offerings, a curve and changeup, were deemed below average by an evaluator."
    I was looking for scouting reports on him. Glad you found one. Only thing I could find is one site had him ranked in the Brewers' Top 20 prior to 2013, but he hasn't been on any lists since. Another small RHP who is power-pitch reliant. Kimbrel (and maybe Shae Simmons) are exceptions, but I tend to avoid the short power-pitch RHPs.

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    Obviously we were willing to deal Wren to anyone that would include anyone. Complete giveaway.

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    This trade was all about getting rid of Wren's son. What a shame. He will probably end up doing very little in the big leagues either way but still don't like it.
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    Why not package Wren in a deal with whomever you're trying to trade (BJ, Gattis, Justin, Heyward). He would at least provide some additional value.

    Is getting rid of Frank's son that much even if he's a solid ballplayer?
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    #Braves Wren-less. Hart on KWren: "Felt it would be better for the young man to be given fresh start w/ new org."

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    That explanation is almost admirable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
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    #Braves Wren-less. Hart on KWren: "Felt it would be better for the young man to be given fresh start w/ new org."
    wish Hart, JS, Fredi and Bobby could go the same way
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    I'm not going to cry over the loss of a player like Kyle Wren, but this trade is pathetic on all levels.

    I seriously doubt Kyle would let any kind of personal feelings get in the way of his goal of reaching the big leagues. I mean, he's a player. It's not like he has to deal with the people in the front office on a day to day basis. This just reeks of Hart and co. not wanting to deal with the awkward situation of seeing Wren Sr. at the games (either Major League or Minor League). Even if it was a mercy move, they could have at least gotten something for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    I'm not going to cry over the loss of a player like Kyle Wren, but this trade is pathetic on all levels.

    I seriously doubt Kyle would let any kind of personal feelings get in the way of his goal of reaching the big leagues. I mean, he's a player. It's not like he has to deal with the people in the front office on a day to day basis. This just reeks of Hart and co. not wanting to deal with the awkward situation of seeing Wren Sr. at the games (either Major League or Minor League). Even if it was a mercy move, they could have at least gotten something for him.
    Couldn't of said it any better. Wren does have some value and should have fetched more than what we received.

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    I thought they could've, would've. But I haven't seen Quintana RT @Wildcats_Braves: @DOBrienAJC Should the Braves have gotten more for Wren?

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    @DOBrienAJC: For those who might be wondering, Kyle Wren had not asked to be traded. I talked to him last week in Arizona, and he was focused on playing.

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    This was a complete giveaway of a decent prospect who should have some value in the Majors (as a 4th outfielder if not better). That said, I knew they were going to trade him as this organization and their good old boys club ways are so predictable.

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    Dont get this move, Wren seemed like a good 4th OF'er in the next couple years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Dont get this move, Wren seemed like a good 4th OF'er in the next couple years.
    Really? How could you not get this move?

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    Exile the Wrens

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    The more I think about this, the more it annoys me.

    Let's start with this, because I don't want to sound like I think the sky is falling. This trade is almost certainly not going to hurt us. By far the likeliest outcome for Kyle Wren's career is...no career. He likely won't make it to the bigs. If he does and he has a career, it'll probably be as a 4th/5th outfielder. There's a very small but non-zero possibility that he'll be a useful leadoff hitter and center fielder.

    And there's nothing wrong with trading that sort of player. You shouldn't hesitate to trade that sort of prospect at all if you can get a solid return. But we didn't- we acquired a pitcher who has consistently gotten his head kicked in at the minor league level.

    The only reason we made this trade is because of who Kyle's father is.

    Hart can talk about giving Kyle Wren a "fresh start," but who demanded that fresh start? It wasn't Wren. He didn't demand a trade. Didn't ask for one. Didn't suggest one. He hasn't sulked or let his focus drift. By all accounts he's continued to work hard and play hard.

    So, again, why does Kyle Wren need a "fresh start?" You have two possibilities here, as I see them. First, Hart doesn't think Wren will get a fair shake with the organization and will be treated poorly because of who his father is and things would be untenable for Kyle with the Braves. If that's the case, it speaks really, really poorly of the organization.

    The second possibility is that Hart and Schuerholz really are just purging Wrens and traded a reasonable prospect for an utter non-prospect because of their disdain for the previous GM. That speaks really, really poorly of Hart and Schuerholz.

    Either way, it's a troublesome trade, even if it doesn't ever really affect us.
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    We've got this smug good old boys club in the front office, and I wish we'd bring in some fresh blood already. This type of deal is ridiculous.

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    They've probably been planning Kyle's exit since the day Frank was fired.

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