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    Agree.
    Miller + a top 10 would be a decent haul. This guy isn't top 25

    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Think anyone with half a brain knew Heyward wasn't staying here long term and it was a risk to sign him to big dollars as it is due to his lack of offensive production.

    But, Shelby Miller? Really, not like Shelby Miller and a top 10 prospect? Not Shelby Miller and Matt Carpenter? Not Shelby Miller and someone good at the very least?

    I'm shocked.

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    this org. and front office is a joke. total joke. this team is set up to be legit bad for years.

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    Again....forgetting about the shock of Heyward being gone. Teheran, Wood, Miller, Minor is pretty sexy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Heyward wasn't going to sign here long term. We got a high ceiling pitcher in return.

    I don't see what the issue was. The real dumb decision would be to let him walk for a comp pick next yeAR.
    What we got is with a little refining with his secondary pitches (Miller) is a guy that potentially could be our next John Smoltz. And we got another high upside arm that may live up to some of the potential as well.

    Of course the other flip side, neither could amount to much and Miller could be stuck as a middle of the rotation starter and Jenkins amounts to nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    Or Hart is in there to make all the unpopular moves before he turns over the clean slate to Coppolella.
    That's what I was getting at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emk418 View Post
    Teheran, Wood, Miller, Minor is pretty sexy.
    Like, this sexy:


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    Quote Originally Posted by emk418 View Post
    Again....forgetting about the shock of Heyward being gone. Teheran, Wood, Miller, Minor is pretty sexy.
    Agreed, but our offense that will get shutout 100 times isn't.
    Miller still has a lot to prove, Minor has to rebound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
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    MLB source - This is just the beginning. Only players safe are top-3 pitchers, Kimbrel, Freddie and Simmons"

    WTF.
    keeping Kimbrel is so ****ing stupid now

    cause we need to save games badly i guess
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    Think I'm done as a Braves fan. He was my favorite player to watch, and this is a joke of a return.

    Terrible organization.

    Later, y'all.

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    I hate to see Heyward go. He was one of my favorites and the player I wanted to do well more than any player since Andruw Jones. I remember how he was leading the NL MVP race after two months as a 20 year old in 2010. He was now entering his prime years, but it all boils down to a few things...

    1. There was a slim to no chance Jason Heyward would be a Brave in 2016.
    2. With Uggla and B. Upton, there was a slim to no chance the Braves would win a World Series in 2015.

    The Braves know this. The Cardinals know this. The entire league knows this. The Braves are building a young, talented team with eyes set on competing for a World Series in 2017 after two average seasons. After this trade, there is no way the Braves can justify not moving Justin Upton. IMO, they can't even justify signing him to an extension. He has to go for some more young talent and salary relief.

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    Braves acquired RHP Tyrell Jenkins and RHP Shelby Miller from the Cardinals for OF Jason Heyward and RHP Jordan Walden.
    Jenkins hasn't quite met the hype that made him a supplemental first-round pick in the 2010 MLB Amateur Draft, but he is a well-built 22-year-old with the raw ability to eventually develop into a high-impact major league pitcher. Jenkins was recruited to play quarterback at Baylor University before signing with St. Louis. He had a good showing this year in the Arizona Fall League after battling injuries for much of 2013 and 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Heyward wasn't going to sign here long term. We got a high ceiling pitcher in return.

    I don't see what the issue was. The real dumb decision would be to let him walk for a comp pick next yeAR.
    See, many of us don't see Miller's ceiling as all that high—and that's a big part of the issue here that I guess you're not seeing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    One or two posters celebrated Wren getting fired. Most of us said he was getting scapegoated HARD.
    Well **** them. Just **** it all to hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Heyward wasn't going to sign here long term. We got a high ceiling pitcher in return.

    I don't see what the issue was. The real dumb decision would be to let him walk for a comp pick next yeAR.
    Miller had the seventh worst FIP among qualifying pitchers. Just sayin. Snugly tucked in between Kyle Kendrick and Colby Lewis. But hey gotta love that high ceiling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holden View Post
    Think I'm done as a Braves fan. He was my favorite player to watch, and this is a joke of a return.

    Terrible organization.

    Later, y'all.
    See you tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by holden View Post
    Think I'm done as a Braves fan. He was my favorite player to watch, and this is a joke of a return.

    Terrible organization.

    Later, y'all.
    +1

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    Welp, my summer for the next couple years just freed up. Hope it turns out well but my initial reaction is "really, that's it?". Yikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Miller had the seventh worth FIP among qualifying pitchers. Just sayin. Snugly tucked in between Kyle Kendrick and Colby Lewis. But hey gotta love that high ceiling.
    Oooh maybe we can get Kendrick for Justin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by holden View Post
    Think I'm done as a Braves fan. He was my favorite player to watch, and this is a joke of a return.

    Terrible organization.

    Later, y'all.
    See ya

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    Why do you keep Kimbrel? He's not going to get to pitch b/c you have to score to get a lead. Save some innings on his arm this year?

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