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Thread: Braves Trade Heyward, Walden to Cardinals for Miller and Tyrell Jenkins

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    And it's not like they can't afford to properly extent Heyward (even at his astronomically gr33dy [$$$!] rate).

    St. Louis is pretty loaded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    And it's not like they can't afford to properly extent Heyward (even at his astronomically gr33dy [$$$!] rate).

    St. Louis is pretty loaded.
    So greed; much want.
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    Peter Gammons
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    Jason Heyward quickly learned what it is to be a Cardinal. w/in hours of the deal, he had calls from Wainwright, Holliday, M. Carpenter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I understand the various criticisms. It is sort of what Winston Churchill said about democracy "the worst form of government except for all the alternatives."

    Having said that I'm all ears for alternative ways of assessing the trade.
    Unfortunately we won't be able to assess this trade for a couple of years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Now that they've acquired Jason Heyward, absolutely.



    I don't know that you can call it 'dumb' -- if anything, no more stupid than the JD Drew trade, presuming Miller pans out.
    Cards were in a better position to win regardless of Heyward. Even before Heyward they had a better line-up and better staff by far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
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    Jason Heyward quickly learned what it is to be a Cardinal. w/in hours of the deal, he had calls from Wainwright, Holliday, M. Carpenter...
    They are going to love him.
    Especially Wainwright when Jason saves a double, triple, or homer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    Justin to the Mariners? What? Is Scott Bankhead and Leon Roberts available?
    I heard Mark Langston may come out of retirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
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    Jason Heyward quickly learned what it is to be a Cardinal. w/in hours of the deal, he had calls from Wainwright, Holliday, M. Carpenter...
    hours??? That would be impressive in the telegraph era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Even before Heyward they had a better line-up and better staff by far.
    "By far" is a pretty magnanimous stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    hours??? That would be impressive in the telegraph era.
    I think Gammo still resides in that epoch.

    He is easily the most entertaining baseball writer that I follow on Twitter, mainly because he accidentally composes practically every tweet he posts as a message to himself.

    And, of course, those notorious pocket tweets: http://deadspin.com/5969910/the-15-b...tweets-of-2012

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    Hope Terdo can hit enough to earn some ABs in 2015.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buck75 View Post
    Hope Terdo can hit enough to earn some ABs in 2015.
    The ability to stand in the batter's box fits the "hit enough to earn some at-bats" for this team right now.

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    A confluence of circumstances led to this being a trade maybe worth doing.

    Uggla finds the bottom of the barrel. Then punches though it.
    BJ is terrible anywhere but 8th
    Medlen and Beachy go down. Spend to replace on Ervin.

    The questions about the roster had a more glass half full feel to them last year. You could more easily justify spending more to see if you could contend.

    This year you would need to drink the Kool-Aid to believe the glass is looking sweet this year.

    After the multiple debacles last season you need major progress in multiple spots just to get back to a meh level. Hard to justify investing in 2015. And then you have the opportunity cost of standing pat for a year in 2015 if you only hope for the best.

    It sucks but it's where were at in a division with WASH and a League with a team spending $250,000,000

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post


    I am now dumber from watching that...
    "Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon"

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueagleace1 View Post
    I am now dumber from watching that...
    I'd be more pissed about the time wasted. I didn't watch it cause I could tell only BS would be coming from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    I'd be more pissed about the time wasted. I didn't watch it cause I could tell only BS would be coming from it.
    I guess the name "The BS Report" has two interpretations. Also doesn't surprise me that Bill Shanks initials also stand for bull sh**
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    "Would YOU want to pay Jason Heyward 16 million a year for the next 5-7 years?"

    Why, yes, yes I absolutely would. That would be a steal, even.

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    "He's averaged 16.8 homeruns a season". Maybe Bill was on to something. Heyward didn't love baseball enough to hit whole homeruns, only homeruns in 10ths.


    Can someone tell Bill Simmons that someone is copying the name of his podcast? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    "Would YOU want to pay Jason Heyward 16 million a year for the next 5-7 years?"

    Why, yes, yes I absolutely would. That would be a steal, even.
    I still think guaranteeing $16M a year for 7 years or so for Heyward is risky but I would be on board with that. Too bad he never would have signed for close to that. I'm sure Hart would have locked him up already if he would have accepted $16M

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