Right. When the music stops, you can be standing there holding your johnson.Originally Posted by Carp
Right. When the music stops, you can be standing there holding your johnson.
Also, we're waiting longer on Fat Upton. His appeal and skillset is scarcer and more universally desired. So maybe the pressure is building on the Seattles of the world who are one major masher away from competing for a World Series and Hart capitalizes on that. On Heyward, the Cards early offer was strong, he pulled the trigger.
The Braves spin doctors have done an excellent job covering up the story when Harang and Laird both attempted to enter a Golden Corral at the same time. It took a tow truck and a pound of butter to ... I've said too much already.
clvclv (11-23-2014)
If Reed is an option worth holding on to...
Ivermectin Man
He's a short guy. So maybe not.
You know what they say about short guys ...
Smaller strike zone.
Peter Gammons
@pgammo
Braves, Giants, Padres offered on Tomas, w/ Phil's, DBacks, Seattle lurking
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I've got to know what the Braves offered.
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David O'Brien @DOBrienAJC
#Braves know they can get plenty in trade for JUpton or Gattis, so moving on Yasmany Tomas wouldn't depend on first doing 1 of those trades.
Last edited by Hawk; 11-23-2014 at 06:35 PM.
While Gattis may still be traded, moving him has no effect on freeing up money as Gattis is as cheap as they come. So if money is needed it will take moving Justin Upton or another similar contract.
That said, I would be interested in knowing how much we offered Tomas too.
Last edited by Braves1976; 11-23-2014 at 07:02 PM.
The Giants and Padres also supposedly have offers into Pablo Sandoval, so you wonder if their ability to sign Tomas would be affected if they inked Sandoval. It's hard to fathom why a free agent hitter would want to play in San Diego.
I have mixed emotions about Tomas. Glad to see the Braves pursuing him since Justin will almost certainly be traded, but I'm nervous about an overpay. The market for Cuban players has gotten unreal over the past couple years.
Me thinks our offer was somewhere in the neighborhood of 85 million over 6 yrs. So basically 14 million per yr.
Yasmany Tomas seems to have a great arm, check out this throw: http://instagram.com/p/vuVaT1hmeI/
50PoundHead (11-24-2014), Hawk (11-23-2014)
Should I be excited about this guy? I don't know his stats, and then again, what would I compare them to. Secondly, if the Braves sign this guy, they're going to have to put him on weightwatchers. This guy is a fatass.
Here's a pretty good scouting write-up on Tomas from a couple months ago. The Reader's Digest version is that most scouts think he will be a lesser player than Jose Abreu and more comparable to Cespedes. Jose Abreu signed for 6 / $68m at age 27. Tomas is 24.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/scouting-yasmany-tomas/
Braves1976 (11-23-2014)
So despite that clip I posted this report says that Tomas arm is "fringy to below average" but that some scouts see his arm as "solid-average at times in the past."
I heard today that a Phillies scout compared him to Marlon Byrd. I can see where that comes from everywhere except his bat - the general consensus is that he can definitely hit (although his Cuban numbers in comparison to Cespedes, Abreu, and Puig aren't nearly as good and do highlight some fundamental flaws).
Amaro has indicated, in so many words, that he believes a lot of the hype surrounding Tomas is tied to the success of Cuban hitters in MLB the past few years. Part of that is probably true, but it could also just be a negotiating ploy.
Last edited by Hawk; 11-23-2014 at 10:35 PM.
Rather have Moncada
Ivermectin Man
Rather have Barry Bonds in his prime.
Prikichi (11-26-2014)
Not me. That guy was a sweat hog. i also prefer my middle linebackers to actually play football.
Ivermectin Man
Yup. Younger, more upside. Could help us at positions of need: third and center.
He's kind of chunky, but that's a pretty good throw.
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