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    Quote Originally Posted by emk418 View Post
    Still not sure what we would get from the Cubs though. Bryant, Baez, Russell, Soler would most likely be off limits for a rental. But they still have some interesting pieces.
    I was thinking one of their next tier outfielders- Billy McKinney or Albert Almora, plus a B-level pitching prospect like CJ Edwards or someone broadly similar.

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    I'll credit Hart for this: he's undeniably holding strong on Upton and Gattis. If you had asked me a week ago, I would have bet on Justin being gone by now. But Hart has his price, and he rightly recognizes that he's holding the two big right-handed power options on the market. I'm still nervous about the final return when a trade is completed, but at least he's not jumping the gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadduxFanII View Post
    I was thinking one of their next tier outfielders- Billy McKinney or Albert Almora, plus a B-level pitching prospect like CJ Edwards or someone broadly similar.
    Bryant will probably be a great 3B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buck75 View Post
    Bryant will probably be a great 3B.
    There is a 0% chance they deal him. IMO he will be a top 5 player in the game in no more than 3 years.

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    Ugh I hope this master plan for Theo and the Cubs goes down the toilet because their fans are the worst, the absolute worst! Make Yankee, Mets, and Phillies fans look civil compared to most of those idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Millwood1Hitter View Post
    Ugh I hope this master plan for Theo and the Cubs goes down the toilet because their fans are the worst, the absolute worst! Make Yankee, Mets, and Phillies fans look civil compared to most of those idiots.
    Dont get your hopes up.

    Young core, with guys like Baez and Solar, with Bryant, Russell as well.

    And deep pockets, Cubs are gonna be real good, soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Dont get your hopes up.

    Young core, with guys like Baez and Solar, with Bryant, Russell as well.

    And deep pockets, Cubs are gonna be real good, soon.
    Yeah, maybe. But there are signs not all of those guys are all they're cracked up to be. Some of them don't reach base and strike out a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Millwood1Hitter View Post
    Ugh I hope this master plan for Theo and the Cubs goes down the toilet because their fans are the worst, the absolute worst! Make Yankee, Mets, and Phillies fans look civil compared to most of those idiots.
    Have compassion on poor Cubs fans. When have they ever had something to cheer for? I'd actually find it quite amusing to watch them contend.

    Honestly, Braves fans aren't the worlds best fans either. I've always hated how it takes a miracle to fill the Ted, and now we get a new park, though I'm not sure it's deserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Dont get your hopes up.

    Young core, with guys like Baez and Solar, with Bryant, Russell as well.

    And deep pockets, Cubs are gonna be real good, soon.
    Baseball is a funny game, weird things happen.
    I like their chances relative to everyone else's though, of course.

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    What about getting a third team involved for Upton for example:

    Reds get: Justin Upton, Tyler Pastornicky, Aaron Northcraft

    Rangers get: Johnny Cueto, James Russell, Brayan Pena

    Braves get: Jurickson Profar, Michael Lorenzen, Nomar Mazara and Alex Gonzalez
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    Now that the Giants appear to be in on Justin after failing to sign Lester, I would love to pry catcher Andrew Susac from them. He is blocked by Posey and they have a history of trades like this like Beltran/Wheeler. I would say Justin is worth more since they get a full year plus draft pick and Wheeler was the better prospect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueagleace1 View Post
    What about getting a third team involved for Upton for example:

    Reds get: Justin Upton, Tyler Pastornicky, Aaron Northcraft

    Rangers get: Johnny Cueto, James Russell, Brayan Pena

    Braves get: Jurickson Profar, Michael Lorenzen, Nomar Mazara and Alex Gonzalez

    I've got a better idea. Uggla comes off the books this year at $13m. Justin expires at $14.5. Give Justin Uggla's money and his own. Extent Justin at $27.5m for six, $165m. Go seven if necessary.

    Let's forget all this foolishness about flipping him and draft picks and such. We've got to pay someone to compete - why not him?

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    Going to be interesting seeing now what the Giants, Mariners, Texas and the Orioles do. Will one of them bite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BedellBrave View Post
    Going to be interesting seeing now what the Giants, Mariners, Texas and the Orioles do. Will one of them bite?
    The bigger bats are pretty much gone. I'd think they would be pressed to...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    The bigger bats are pretty much gone. I'd think they would be pressed to...
    Remaining options: Morse, Cabrera, Rasmus, Rios, Aoki.

    The Red Sox could also trade Craig and/or Victorino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GovClintonTyree View Post
    I've got a better idea. Uggla comes off the books this year at $13m. Justin expires at $14.5. Give Justin Uggla's money and his own. Extent Justin at $27.5m for six, $165m. Go seven if necessary.

    Let's forget all this foolishness about flipping him and draft picks and such. We've got to pay someone to compete - why not him?
    Yeah. I think he's a better bet than spinning the FA roulette wheel in a couple of years.

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    I'm also on the keep Justin train. Need a righty to pair with Freddie, and there aren't many better than Justin in baseball. He has his flaws for sure, but having 2 mashers locked up makes me feel a little better about future prspects.

    That said if someone blows us away I wouldn't be opposed to trading him, but I want a Teixeira level blow away. 3 top prospects, 2 who're major league ready and some stretch guys.
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    Really want to extend Justin as well, but don't know that we can do it.

    That said, the Reds just cleared $13.5 million in projected arbitration salaries in the Latos and Simon deals - wonder if they now jump in on Justin with Cespedes gone.
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    Count me in on the train for keeping Justin unless we're completely blown away. The options to fill that OF hole if we do trade him are evaporating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bravesnumberone View Post
    Count me in on the train for keeping Justin unless we're completely blown away. The options to fill that OF hole if we do trade him are evaporating.
    This was my biggest issue in dealing Jason rather than extenting him. There aren't that many better options long-term to replace him, and the ones that are better bets likely won't become available. Same thing for Justin. Who are our future OFers if he's dealt? Unless we get a really nice OF prospect for him, or deal from our young pitching, I doubt we come across a better option.

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