Hadn't seen this posted...
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/1...n-heyward.html
Hadn't seen this posted...
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/1...n-heyward.html
Might as well shop Freddie too. We're going nowhere. Might as well plan for 2020.
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Getting to watch Justin has nearly made up for having to watch his brother. If we do trade him, and I think we will, I hope he goes on to have a great career.
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If something like Walker from Seattle is the return, and then Hart goes out and signs Tomas, this could end up being a pretty good offseason as far as reloading the organization with young talent is concerned.
JohnAdcox (11-21-2014)
holden (11-23-2014)
It will be interesting to see what Justin brings relative to Jason. It would be one more data point on how teams value defense relative to offense.
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I honestly think Hart will be lucky to get Walker or Paxton for 1 year of JUp. Remember, the Cards "loved" Heyward and only gave up Shelby Miller for him.
I would imagine Heyward and JUp have very similar trade values right now (Heyward is cheaper with a better all around game, JUp with the most coveted RH power), so if Hart gets Walker plus anything else for JUp he should be lauded.
bravesnumberone (11-21-2014), jpx7 (11-21-2014)
I think so. That doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility.
I do prefer Paxton to Walker and Miller (for our purposes) to Taylor, but the general idea is great.
As an aside, I'd be thrilled if we could somehow expand that deal to include Michael Saunders. Wouldn't take much more, he's fallen out of favor with Jack Z. Which doesn't necessarily mean anything, since Z is arbitrary and capricious.
The more I think about this, the more I like it. Seattle would wet themselves for Gattis, and we know they love JUpton. And they might pay him. And they might accept Mel as part of the price for the other two. We could kick in $5m of Mel if that got it done. Maybe you could do something like:
JUpton
MUpton + some cash (if needed) and
Gattis
For
Paxton/Walker
Miller/Taylor
Saunders
And sign Tomas. That would leave us with one 30 HR stiff, a solid CF, a young LH power bat who could play 2B or 3B with 3 yrs control left, 5-6 yrs worth of a pitching stud for one year of Fat Upton - and Melvin off the books.
Do it, John.
Umm..
The Braves would have to send Gattis and cash just to get the M's to take BJ, leaving the trade as JUp for 3 young quality players. That isn't even a remotely plausible trade.
Again, JUp is probably worth approximately one of Walker or Paxton (something minor might be added by either or both sides). If Hart sends both JUp and Gattis to Seattle (without BJ) he might be able to get that type of package from the Ms.
The Atlanta Braves signed Nick Markakis for 4/45 - Never forget 12/3/2014
"Klay Thompson > James Harden" - Heyward
"Chris Bosh is the MVP of the Miami Heat" - Heyward
"Hibbert is better than Dwight Howard"- Heyward
"Steven Adams will be a top 10 center in two years - thethe
AerchAngel (11-22-2014), holden (11-23-2014)
Maybe this is all really being done just to piss off Terence Moore...
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He wasn't offered a contract, so you can't really say that....despite what the rumors are. You have no way to know what Jason would have said if we offered him a contract with T, Freddie, Simmons. Rumors are rumors and they might be from good sources but those rumors are after we never offered him a contract.
The Atlanta Braves signed Nick Markakis for 4/45 - Never forget 12/3/2014
"Klay Thompson > James Harden" - Heyward
"Chris Bosh is the MVP of the Miami Heat" - Heyward
"Hibbert is better than Dwight Howard"- Heyward
"Steven Adams will be a top 10 center in two years - thethe