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    Braves donate Justin Upton to Padres for prospects


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    Might as well shop Freddie too. We're going nowhere. Might as well plan for 2020.
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    Getting to watch Justin has nearly made up for having to watch his brother. If we do trade him, and I think we will, I hope he goes on to have a great career.

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    If something like Walker from Seattle is the return, and then Hart goes out and signs Tomas, this could end up being a pretty good offseason as far as reloading the organization with young talent is concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    If something like Walker from Seattle is the return, and then Hart goes out and signs Tomas, this could end up being a pretty good offseason as far as reloading the organization with young talent is concerned.
    I'd like to get more than just Walker. Get Chris Taylor in the deal as well or Gab Guerrero.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I'd like to get more than just Walker. Get Chris Taylor in the deal as well or Gab Guerrero.
    Total Annihilation was great, but I don't see how Chris Taylor will help us win baseball games.

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    It will be interesting to see what Justin brings relative to Jason. It would be one more data point on how teams value defense relative to offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    I'd like to get more than just Walker. Get Chris Taylor in the deal as well or Gab Guerrero.
    I honestly think Hart will be lucky to get Walker or Paxton for 1 year of JUp. Remember, the Cards "loved" Heyward and only gave up Shelby Miller for him.

    I would imagine Heyward and JUp have very similar trade values right now (Heyward is cheaper with a better all around game, JUp with the most coveted RH power), so if Hart gets Walker plus anything else for JUp he should be lauded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Might as well shop Freddie too. We're going nowhere. Might as well plan for 2020.
    If you find a way to trade Upton for Walker/Miller or Taylor and then you sign Tomas then I think we are in a pretty good spot honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    If you find a way to trade Upton for Walker/Miller or Taylor and then you sign Tomas then I think we are in a pretty good spot honestly.
    Excepting for having guys that can hit and relievers before the 9th inning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    If you find a way to trade Upton for Walker/Miller or Taylor and then you sign Tomas then I think we are in a pretty good spot honestly.
    I think so. That doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility.

    I do prefer Paxton to Walker and Miller (for our purposes) to Taylor, but the general idea is great.

    As an aside, I'd be thrilled if we could somehow expand that deal to include Michael Saunders. Wouldn't take much more, he's fallen out of favor with Jack Z. Which doesn't necessarily mean anything, since Z is arbitrary and capricious.

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    The more I think about this, the more I like it. Seattle would wet themselves for Gattis, and we know they love JUpton. And they might pay him. And they might accept Mel as part of the price for the other two. We could kick in $5m of Mel if that got it done. Maybe you could do something like:

    JUpton
    MUpton + some cash (if needed) and
    Gattis

    For

    Paxton/Walker
    Miller/Taylor
    Saunders

    And sign Tomas. That would leave us with one 30 HR stiff, a solid CF, a young LH power bat who could play 2B or 3B with 3 yrs control left, 5-6 yrs worth of a pitching stud for one year of Fat Upton - and Melvin off the books.

    Do it, John.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GovClintonTyree View Post
    The more I think about this, the more I like it. Seattle would wet themselves for Gattis, and we know they love JUpton. And they might pay him. And they might accept Mel as part of the price for the other two. We could kick in $5m of Mel if that got it done. Maybe you could do something like:

    JUpton
    MUpton + some cash (if needed) and
    Gattis

    For

    Paxton/Walker
    Miller/Taylor
    Saunders

    And sign Tomas. That would leave us with one 30 HR stiff, a solid CF, a young LH power bat who could play 2B or 3B with 3 yrs control left, 5-6 yrs worth of a pitching stud for one year of Fat Upton - and Melvin off the books.

    Do it, John.
    Umm..

    The Braves would have to send Gattis and cash just to get the M's to take BJ, leaving the trade as JUp for 3 young quality players. That isn't even a remotely plausible trade.

    Again, JUp is probably worth approximately one of Walker or Paxton (something minor might be added by either or both sides). If Hart sends both JUp and Gattis to Seattle (without BJ) he might be able to get that type of package from the Ms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Might as well shop Freddie too. We're going nowhere. Might as well plan for 2020.
    Should have traded Freddie and kept Heyward.
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    Maybe this is all really being done just to piss off Terence Moore...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRule View Post
    Should have traded Freddie and kept Heyward.
    Heyward would have been here if he didn't want to get paid like a superstar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Heyward would have been here if he didn't want to get paid like a superstar.
    He wasn't offered a contract, so you can't really say that....despite what the rumors are. You have no way to know what Jason would have said if we offered him a contract with T, Freddie, Simmons. Rumors are rumors and they might be from good sources but those rumors are after we never offered him a contract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRule View Post
    He wasn't offered a contract, so you can't really say that....despite what the rumors are. You have no way to know what Jason would have said if we offered him a contract with T, Freddie, Simmons. Rumors are rumors and they might be from good sources but those rumors are after we never offered him a contract.
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