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    Braves sniffing around on Markakis; Official 4 years 44 million.

    http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/...g-those-in-mix

    Veteran outfielder Nick Markakis, who seemed for a while to be a pretty god bet to return to the Orioles, is listening to outside offers now and said to have interest from the Braves, Blue Jays and Giants, among others.

    Atlanta is an interesting entry since Markakis grew up in Woodstock, Ga., went to Young Harris College and has a home in Georgia (as he does in Maryland). The Braves traded right fielder Jason Heyward and are listening to offers for another top outfielder, Justin Upton, so there definitely is room for Markakis.

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    It's no surprise Markakis has a solid market after another very nice season, in which he hit .276 with 14 home runs and 50 RBI, and also took home his second Gold Glove award. The one hurdle was probably the perception that it's a fait accompli he'd remain with Baltimore. What may be a susprise is that the hometown Braves are among teams in the mix.


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    Not expecting anything but would be a nice poor mans version of Heyward at a much cheaper rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Not expecting anything but would be a nice poor mans version of Heyward at a much cheaper rate.
    I don't see Markakis signing for cheaper than $7.8MM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    I don't see Markakis signing for cheaper than $8.5MM.
    Seems about right. That's the going rate for a 1 WAR player. Over four seasons, I'd expect 1.5, 1.5, 1 and 1 our of him. So 8.5M might be on the low side of what he can expect.

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    Markakis makes some sense once the JUp and Gattis trades are complete. He is durable, can play RF competently (though not at Heyward's level), and should provide an OBP around ~.350 with some decent pop (10-15 HRs). He is literally a poor man's Jason Heyward, but without the recent platoon split Heyward has shown. He would slot in very nicely at the top of the lineup.

    The problem is obviously going to be the price. He has already turned down a 4 year deal from the O's for $10M-$12M per year, and I don't think the Braves should be trying to top that offer. If he can be had for around 4/40 I think he would be a solid addition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enscheff View Post
    Markakis makes some sense once the JUp and Gattis trades are complete. He is durable, can play RF competently (though not at Heyward's level), and should provide an OBP around ~.350 with some decent pop (10-15 HRs). He is literally a poor man's Jason Heyward, but without the recent platoon split Heyward has shown. He would slot in very nicely at the top of the lineup.
    AND without Heyward's upside, which is still substantial.

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    I've always thought he might be a fallback option for the Braves, but it's all going to depend on price. I don't like his trend line. If he's turned down $10 MM per year from the O's, I don't see him as being a fit for us.

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    The word I heard this morning is that the negotiations fell apart after the Orioles started waffling on the fourth year. The offer on the table apparently stood at 4/$50 million.
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    I think the thing is if we didn't view ourselves as contenders with Heyward, why would we invest in Markakis? I get the financial implications and all that, but it just wouldn't seem to make that much sense to sign Markakis except that someone has to stand in RF.

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    As it stands now, we'd have to sign Markakis before completing an Upton and/or Gattis deal even if you assume something's closer than Hart's letting on - Markakis makes a ton more sense for Toronto than Melky if they're looking to save some money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clvclv View Post
    As it stands now, we'd have to sign Markakis before completing an Upton and/or Gattis deal even if you assume something's closer than Hart's letting on - Markakis makes a ton more sense for Toronto than Melky if they're looking to save some money.
    Given the way they back-loaded Martin's contract, Toronto might not have much in the way of 2015 payroll wiggle room left. They might be strongly motivated to move Buerhle or Dickey to create some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    I don't see Markakis signing for cheaper than $7.8MM.
    I think the point is he would be around longer for a lot cheaper. Decent to good average, a little pop, and good defense. If you can get him for 4/45 or less, he'd be a pretty good sign, imo.

    Plus, we got Miller and Jenkins out of the deal. No way we could sign a pitcher of Miller's quality for 7-8 million per yr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Not expecting anything but would be a nice poor mans version of Heyward at a much cheaper rate.
    I highly doubt Markakis takes that much less than 8 million.

    Markakis also is a very poor man's Heyward, in his 9 years as a pro he's compiled a 22.6 fWAR, Jason in his 5 years has compiled a 21.4 fWAR. Offensively they're almost identical, but the defensive swing is massive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    I highly doubt Markakis takes that much less than 8 million.

    Markakis also is a very poor man's Heyward, in his 9 years as a pro he's compiled a 22.6 fWAR, Jason in his 5 years has compiled a 21.4 fWAR. Offensively they're almost identical, but the defensive swing is massive.
    His WAR numbers the last four seasons: 1.7, 1.6, 0.0 (in over 700 PAs) and 2.5. Some team might be willing to pay him based on last season (like the Mariners with Cruz). I hope it's not us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    I highly doubt Markakis takes that much less than 8 million.

    Markakis also is a very poor man's Heyward, in his 9 years as a pro he's compiled a 22.6 fWAR, Jason in his 5 years has compiled a 21.4 fWAR. Offensively they're almost identical, but the defensive swing is massive.
    True, Heyward is as great as you'll see in right field on defense and Markakis had a -14 DRS over two seasons before last year improving to only a 1 DRS in right field. He has also had a -11 DRS season in right field too.

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    Markakis is a great fit. Not happening but I would love him

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    I have reason to believe that the correct assumption is that he will end up being the right player at the wrong time for the Braves.

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    How about we sign Peavy, trade BJ (some cash included) and Gattis for Fowler and extend him, add Markakis and resign Boni.
    This improves our rotation, our lineup, our bench and our financial stability.

    Rotation: Teheran, Minor, Miller, Peavy, Wood.

    Peraza 2B
    Fowler CF
    Freddie 1B
    J Up LF
    Markakis RF
    CJoh 3B
    Simba SS
    C-Beth C

    I'd look into Aoki as well. As I said, I'm big on him.

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    Unfortunately Markakis is regressing big time so signing him for over 10 mil per year is a huge risk. STEAMER projects him to hit .268/.334/.381 next year. You can get those type of numbers from some stop gap or platton; no point committing 3-4 years at 10 mil plus for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emk418 View Post
    Markakis is not a guy that's going to break the bank. He's very solid reliable bat with above average defense in RF. If we can sign him for $10-$12M and turn Heyward at $8M into Markakis, Shelby Miller, Jenkins for $10M-$12M that's a clear upgrade short term and long term for this team.
    This is my feelings exactly. If we get those three total and lose Jason, I believe it's a long-term win for the team. I love Jason and I miss him being a Brave, but I'm very high on miller and love Jenkins upside.

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