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    The American Justice System Is Not Broken



    In July, New York police officer Daniel Pantaleo choked unarmed black man Eric Garner to death, in broad daylight, while a bystander caught it on video. That is what American police do. Yesterday, despite the video, despite an NYPD prohibition of exactly the sort of chokehold Pantaleo used, and despite the New York City medical examiner ruling the death a homicide, a Staten Island grand jury declined even to indict Pantaleo. That is what American grand juries do.

    In August, Ferguson, Mo. police officer Darren Wilson shot unarmed black teenager Michael Brown to death in broad daylight. That is what American police do. Ten days ago, despite multiple eyewitness accounts and his own face contradicting Wilson's narrative of events, a grand jury declined to indict Wilson. That is what American grand juries do.

    In November of 2006, a group of five New York police officers shot unarmed black man Sean Bell to death in the early morning hours of his wedding day. That is what American police do. In April of 2008, despite multiple eyewitness accounts contradicting the officers' accounts of the incident, Justice Arthur J. Cooperman acquitted the officers of all charges, including reckless endangerment. That is what American judges do.

    In February of 1999, four plainclothes New York police officers shot unarmed black man Amadou Diallo to death outside of his home. That is what American police do. A year later, an Albany jury acquitted the officers of all charges, including reckless endangerment. That is what American juries do.

    In November of 1951, Willis McCall, the sheriff of Lake County, Florida, shot and killed Sam Shepherd, an unarmed and handcuffed black man in his custody. That is what American police do. Despite both a living witness and forensic evidence which contradicted his version of events, a coroner's inquest ruled that McCall had acted within the line of duty, and Judge Thomas Futch declined to convene a grand jury at all.

    The American justice system is not broken. This is what the American justice system does. This is what America does.

    The Atlantic's Ta-Nehisi Coates has written damningly of the American preference for viewing our society's crimes as aberrations—betrayals of some deeper, truer virtue, or departures from some righteous intended path. This is a convenient mythology. If the institutions of white American power taking black lives and then exonerating themselves for it is understood as a failure to live out some more authentic American idea, rather than as the expression of that American idea, then your and my and our lives and lifestyles are distinct from those failures. We can stand over here, and shake our heads at the failures over there, and then return to the familiar business, and everything is OK. Likewise, if the individual police officers who take black lives are just some bad cops doing policework badly, and not good cops doing precisely what America has hired and trained them to do, then white Americans may continue calling the police when black people frighten us, free from moral responsibility for the whole range of possible outcomes.

    The murders of Michael Brown, Eric Garner, Sean Bell, Amadou Diallo, Sam Shepherd, and countless thousands of others at the hands of American law enforcement are not aberrations, or betrayals, or departures. The acquittals of their killers are not mistakes. There is no virtuous innermost America, sullied or besmirched or shaded by these murders. This is America. It is not broken. It is doing what it does.

    America is a serial brutalizer of black and brown people. Brutalizing them is what it does. It does other things, too, yes, but brutalizing black and brown people is what it has done the most, and with the most zeal, and for the longest. The best argument you can make on behalf of the various systems and infrastructures the country uses against its black and brown citizens—the physical design of its cities, the methods it uses to allocate placement in elite institutions, the way it trains its police to treat citizens like enemy soldiers—might actually just be that they're more restrained than those used against black and brown people abroad. America employs the enforcers of its power to beat, kill, and terrorize, deploys its judiciary to say that that's OK, and has done this more times than anyone can hope to count. This is not a flaw in the design; this is the design.

    Policing in America is not broken. The judicial system is not broken. American society is not broken. All are functioning perfectly, doing exactly what they have done since before some of this nation's most prosperous slave-murdering robber-barons came together to consecrate into statehood the mechanisms of their barbarism. Democracy functions. Politicians, deriving their legitimacy from the public, have discerned the will of the people and used it to design and enact policies that carry it out, among them those that govern the allowable levels of violence which state can visit upon citizen. Taken together with the myriad other indignities, thefts, and cruelties it visits upon black and brown people, and the work common white Americans do on its behalf by telling themselves bald fictions of some deep and true America of apple pies, Jesus, and people being neighborly to each other and betrayed by those few and nonrepresentative bad apples with their isolated acts of meanness, the public will demands and enables a whirring and efficient machine that does what it does for the benefit of those who own it. It processes black and brown bodies into white power.

    That is what America does. It is not broken. That is exactly what is wrong with it.


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    Whites are 3x more likely to be killed by Cops than Blacks are. 3x. Not one example in that post was a white man being killed by a cop. Why is that?


    No mention about Garner or Brown were resisting arrest after they were commiting a crime. Why is that?






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    "In August, Ferguson, Mo. police officer Darren Wilson shot unarmed black teenager Michael Brown to death in broad daylight. That is what American police do. Ten days ago, despite multiple eyewitness accounts and his own face contradicting Wilson's narrative of events, a grand jury declined to indict Wilson. That is what American grand juries do."


    Wow, out and out lying by the journalist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Whites are 3x more likely to be killed by Cops than Blacks are. 3x. Not one example in that post was a white man being killed by a cop. Why is that?


    No mention about Garner or Brown were resisting arrest after they were commiting a crime. Why is that?






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    White people are what 6 times the population that blacks are. You don't think they'd be shot more often?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Whites are 3x more likely to be killed by Cops than Blacks are. 3x. Not one example in that post was a white man being killed by a cop. Why is that?


    No mention about Garner or Brown were resisting arrest after they were commiting a crime. Why is that?






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    And? The issues is that cops are ****ing murderers and always get away with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    And? The issues is that cops are ****ing murderers and always get away with it
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    Look at Sturg letting his true colors show, trying his hardest to make all cops seem bad. "All cops are murderers and are the scum of the earth, and should be disrespected and spit on"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawking4life View Post
    Look at Sturg letting his true colors show, trying his hardest to make all cops seem bad. "All cops are murderers and are the scum of the earth, and should be disrespected and spit on"
    Not true. But we as Americans should hold cops, military men, and our federal government to the HIGHEST of standards. They work for us. We pay them. And they murder the folks they are supposed to be serving and protecting.

    I hold them to a much higher standard than you do, clearly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Not true. But we as Americans should hold cops, military men, and our federal government to the HIGHEST of standards. They work for us. We pay them. And they murder the folks they are supposed to be serving and protecting.

    I hold them to a much higher standard than you do, clearly.
    Oh I'm sorry, I thought we were able to make false quotes about people and try and say stuff about them that wasn't true. At least that's what you did to me in the other thread... Hmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawking4life View Post
    Oh I'm sorry, I thought we were able to make false quotes about people and try and say stuff about them that wasn't true. At least that's what you did to me in the other thread... Hmmm
    Is that right? You showed your true colors in the other thread. You're a dick - just like thethe and the others. Just embrace it. You love the police state. It's fine - a lot of great dictatorships were built off the same principles.

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    You're the only one being an asshole. For some reason you are unable to remain civil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You're the only one being an asshole. For some reason you are unable to remain civil.
    Why should I be "civil" when we have folks on here defending these guys every day.

    Maybe he will get suspended with pay. That's a solid tax payer investment

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    You're the only one being an asshole. For some reason you are unable to remain civil.
    BC if you are a whiny, tin foil hat, cop hater, then your wrong, bro!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    BC if you are a whiny, tin foil hat, cop hater, then your wrong, bro!
    You got me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    You're a dick - just like thethe and the others. Just embrace .
    Talk about showing ones true colors. First you make false accusations about me and misquote me, and now I'm the one that's a dick? That's funny. Maybe you should look in the mirror.

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    It's funny you're all hung up on "murder vs manslaughter" - as if that makes a ****ing difference to the dead guy and his family.

    All in the name of defending the great shield, though

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    It's funny you're all hung up on "murder vs manslaughter" - as if that makes a ****ing difference to the dead guy and his family.

    All in the name of defending the great shield, though

    Ignorant or dumb?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    It's funny you're all hung up on "murder vs manslaughter" - as if that makes a ****ing difference to the dead guy and his family.

    All in the name of defending the great shield, though
    Oh, is that what you're all pissy about? Because I corrected your false statement that this was murder. I guess you should just get to go around posting all the false crap you want to...

    Oh wait, that's exactly what you've been trying to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawking4life View Post
    Oh, is that what you're all pissy about? Because I corrected your false statement that this was murder. I guess you should just get to go around posting all the false crap you want to...

    Oh wait, that's exactly what you've been trying to do.
    I still say it's a murder. But in the end it makes no difference. The guys is dead. But in your little world:

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    "No Sturg, he didn't murder him. He commited manslaughter. Its' fiiiiine." Toma

    Oh then - I guess we're all good then. Glad this guy gets to go back on the street to continue protecting, serving, and choking the public

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