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Thread: The State of Play in the Starting Pitcher Market

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    I know we have a 5th starter opening, but Id argue we have a more pressing need for a No 1 starter and pushing everyone back a spot.
    That's how I've felt for about two years, but I think it's even more important now with the talent we have. Shields (Any Ace), Teheran, Minor, Miller, Wood. Incredible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    That's how I've felt for about two years, but I think it's even more important now with the talent we have. Shields (Any Ace), Teheran, Minor, Miller, Wood. Incredible.
    While Id like Shields, best case would be adding Hamels.

    Max as well...

    Next year who would be available that would fit that #1 starter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    While Id like Shields, best case would be adding Hamels.

    Max as well...

    Next year who would be available that would fit that #1 starter?
    Zimmerman, Cueto, Price, Shark, and possibly Greinke
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    Remember, Greinke is the legendary mystery pitcher. Keep the hope alive!
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    Maybe a trade for Lester. By then he might be the right pitcher at the right time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    While Id like Shields, best case would be adding Hamels.

    Max as well...

    Next year who would be available that would fit that #1 starter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Maybe a trade for Lester. By then he might be the right pitcher at the right time.
    Yeah, for the Cubs
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueagleace1 View Post
    Zimmerman, Cueto, Price, Shark, and possibly Greinke
    Price, Teheran, Wood, Miller, Minor. That would be the ideal pickup for me. I think Wood will come before Minor by then in the rotation. haha
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    I have reason to believe Lester desperately wants to pitch for the Braves.
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    Yeah, for the Cubs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    I know we have a 5th starter opening, but Id argue we have a more pressing need for a No 1 starter and pushing everyone back a spot.
    It won't matter who's pitching because we can't score any runs

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    Quote Originally Posted by UNCBlue012 View Post
    Price, Teheran, Wood, Miller, Minor. That would be the ideal pickup for me. I think Wood will come before Minor by then in the rotation. haha
    I agree... I would rank them in this order (from the one I'd to have most)

    1. Zack Greinke
    2. David Price
    3. Johnny Cueto
    4. Jordan Zimmerman
    5. Jeff Samardzija
    6. Doug Fister
    7. Rick Porcello

    I think a lot will depend on how we do this year, to see whether we go after one of these guys since all 7 of them should receive a qualifying offer. I would hope that we would at least entertain the idea of signing one of them no matter what, but if we have a protected pick next year -by finishing the 2015 season as one of the 10 worst teams (by records)- I feel like we have to sign a big name free agent since we will only lose a second round pick.
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    The Los Angeles Angeles Dodgers have agreed to a one-year, $10 million deal with left-hander Brett Anderson, with $4m in possible incentives

    Good call, @nsacpi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
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    The Los Angeles Angeles Dodgers have agreed to a one-year, $10 million deal with left-hander Brett Anderson, with $4m in possible incentives

    Good call, @nsacpi
    That's a lot of money for Anderson.
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    Yankees, Braves and Royals were runners-up for Brett Anderson, who goes to the Dodgers for one year and $10M. Incentives start at 150 IP.

    Damn.

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    Who is going to pitch for the Yankees this year????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Who is going to pitch for the Yankees this year????
    Chris Capuano, one year, $5MM.

    (breathes a sigh of relief)

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    Floyd to Cleveland. Great pickup.
    Waters is intersting too. Would prefer a guy that projects to more power though. (2017 Draft Thread)

    If they don't make additions they can expect the same 3-5 win improvement they saw last year. That makes the Braves a 75-78 win team. (What's the best we could hope for in 2018?)


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    It would be huge if we could bring back Harang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    It would be huge if we could bring back Harang.
    One of the more massive re-signings still out there for the Braves, for sure. With all the relative youth in the rotation, a veteran eater who could swallow a lot of back-end innings might really tilt the scales in the direction of good starting-pitching depth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    One of the more massive re-signings still out there for the Braves, for sure. With all the relative youth in the rotation, a veteran eater who could swallow a lot of back-end innings might really tilt the scales in the direction of good starting-pitching depth.
    The only downside risk would be a similar collapse in the second half due to mass starvation by the rest of the club. But I have reason to believe Fredi has studied last year's situation and come up with a solution. Perhaps by setting aside Laird's ration for the rest of the team.
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    I want no part in Harang, esp. on a two year deal. I'd be on board with signing Peavy to a two year deal though, if the money isn't crazy high. Further, Peavy could bring what we lost after Huddy left. His role on the staff would be much like Wagner's role was one year here. I really believe Wagner helped our young guns in the bullpen a lot too. So my hope with Peavy would be that he could do likewise in leading our young starting staff.

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