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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBrave View Post
    Well with a mid payroll organization, if your prospects don't pan out you're pretty much screwed anyway.
    Well, that's the thing: we got lucky with the last crop, and a lot did pan out. One was Heyward; others panned out into Upton; another was Gattis. Now, with the re-set having been pressed, we have to hope the Braves are at least that lucky with the next crop.
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    I understand the idea of shipping Gattis to an American League. And I think we got a couple pretty good prospects in return. But I'm underwhelmed with this deal. I don't think we got good value.

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    Don't get me wrong I completely understand the strategy of this offseason. I just feel it's hard not to be a little depressed about its execution. I seriously have my doubts if well be able to compete by 2017. I just don't see how were going to score runs. Also can anyone e come up with even a slight hint to why we signed Markakis?! Like seriously, someone have even a guess? That signing was mind boggling. Oh well I'll save a lot of money by not making any Braves inspired vacation for a couple years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramadon101 View Post
    In the PCL. Again - in the PCL.

    The Braves should be ECSTATIC about this trade.
    Good point. But we also need to take into account how the hitting environment affects the numbers of some of the hitters we acquired this off-season who played in the California League and PCL.

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    Source: Astros-Braves Gattis deal, which is not completed, would include player/players not known at this point. We don’t have full picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emk418 View Post
    Source: Astros-Braves Gattis deal, which is not completed, would include player/players not known at this point. We don’t have full picture.
    This is very strange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    They put up 11.3 fWAR last year. I would wager that the folks we got in return will never amount to that much in a single season
    Yes. And the price tag for those 11.3 fWAR made them a great value and they project to be great value in 2015 as well. I would be in favor of peddling them if I knew our chances in 2015 were zero. But I don't have that much confidence in my predictive powers.

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    Probably just pending physicals at this point. Braves want to make sure each prospect has had or needs to have Tommy John surgery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    This is very strange.
    Why? I think it is reasonable to expect more for Gattis than the three players whose name have surfaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emk418 View Post
    Source: Astros-Braves Gattis deal, which is not completed, would include player/players not known at this point. We don’t have full picture.
    Which means the Braves could be sending other players with Gattis. Maybe CJ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Why? I think it is reasonable to expect more for Gattis than the three players whose name have surfaced.
    I think there is serious concern about Gattis' health.
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    I think it's important to note that Hart very well may have had no say in the Braves decision to rebuild. I personally believe when Hart was offered the job he was told the plan was to rebuild and put a playoff contender out there in 2017. And in fact I think that's one of the main reasons Hart took the job. So, while it's fair to complain about the prospects Hart has obtained I think it's unfair to blame him on the decision to rebuild.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    I think it's important to note that Hart very well may have had no say in the Braves decision to rebuild. I personally believe when Hart was offered the job he was told the plan was to rebuild and put a playoff contender out there in 2017. And in fact I think that's one of the main reasons Hart took the job. So, while it's fair to complain about the prospects Hart has obtained I think it's unfair to blame him on the decision to rebuild.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    I think it's important to note that Hart very well may have had no say in the Braves decision to rebuild. I personally believe when Hart was offered the job he was told the plan was to rebuild and put a playoff contender out there in 2017. And in fact I think that's one of the main reasons Hart took the job. So, while it's fair to complain about the prospects Hart has obtained I think it's unfair to blame him on the decision to rebuild.
    Actually, it makes sense to bring in a guy for 1-2 years JUST to rebuild. Now Coppy doesn't have to be the scapegoat during the crappy years the Braves are about to face.

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    I'm sure the front office have a much better handle on this than I do, but I wonder what kind of assumptions they are making about attendance and revenues in 2015 and 2016. Here's to hoping they don't see too much of a downside surprise. Maybe the real plan is to continually suck and stock up the farm system so that we have a tremendous team when we get a new tv deal in 2033.

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    Drellich also adds that the biggest concerns heading into Gattis’ physical are his back and right knee, and the concern is fairly significant. While Drellich’s previous report that we may not yet know the identity of all players in the deal created a wide range of speculation, he now adds that B.J. Upton is not in the deal. Astros righty Vincent Velasquez was discussed, however Drellich notes that Velasquez has his own health issues (All Twitter links).

    Meanwhile, MLB.com’s Brian McTaggart tweets that Gattis is expected to play mostly left field in Houston, with occasional appearances at first base and catcher (assuming, of course, the deal is completed).

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    DOB mentioned that we'd probably trade for a LF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orphan Black View Post
    Drellich also adds that the biggest concerns heading into Gattis’ physical are his back and right knee, and the concern is fairly significant. While Drellich’s previous report that we may not yet know the identity of all players in the deal created a wide range of speculation, he now adds that B.J. Upton is not in the deal. Astros righty Vincent Velasquez was discussed, however Drellich notes that Velasquez has his own health issues (All Twitter links).

    Meanwhile, MLB.com’s Brian McTaggart tweets that Gattis is expected to play mostly left field in Houston, with occasional appearances at first base and catcher (assuming, of course, the deal is completed).
    I certainly wouldn't mind if The Stros threw in Velasquez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    Why? I think it is reasonable to expect more for Gattis than the three players whose name have surfaced.
    You and others are overrating Gattis, good player but not like Mike Trout is coming to them.

    I get under control for 4 years, but still.

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