I really don't care about the cost projections. I will be voting for his policy goals.
Once the goals become closer to reality, then I will concern myself with what it costs
I really don't care about the cost projections. I will be voting for his policy goals.
Once the goals become closer to reality, then I will concern myself with what it costs
Last edited by 57Brave; 02-17-2016 at 01:18 PM.
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No, Bernie is telling me what he is going to do to pay for what he wants. The problem is his numbers don't add up. There is no revolution that is going to change the laws of arithmetic. If you want to have blind faith, or do what 57 says and just worry about the costs later, that's your business, but don't act like I'm the one with my head in the sand.
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BedellBrave (02-17-2016)
Goldy hasn't been able to get very specific on his likes of ol Bernie, or how is plan is attainable...
hell, nobody ever responded to the analysis I posted that showed that wages are growing, everyone is richer, thus making Bernie's foundation of thought wrong to begin with.
you pretty much have a blank slate
when we talk about a revolution
i am you don't understand not doing something totally different than the way you always knew it. imo, a revolution
"For there is always light, if only we are brave enough to see it. If only we are brave enough to be it." Amanda Gorman
"When Fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"
aces has asked you a couple of legit questions over the last few pages and you've managed to specifically answer exactly 0 of them
BedellBrave (02-17-2016)
You say that, but I don't see where Bernie is proposing some sort of blank slate.
He says he'll raise taxes on corporations and go after money stashed abroad - so that means we'll still have corporations.
He says he'll raise taxes on the top 1% - so that means we'll still have people working at those corporations, presumably at relatively high salaries.
He says he'll raise taxes on what he calls Wall St speculation - so that means we'll still have investment bankers making large financial transactions.
He says he'll raise the capital gains tax - so that means we'll still have relatively high wealth individuals holding capital (it's not just going to be confiscated).
What I'm seeing is a guy proposing to raise tax revenue through the existing economy/society to pay for HC, education, jobs, etc, but smart people analysing his plans are saying that his cash inflows are nowhere near able to cover the costs of his ideas. I don't see a guy saying "we're going to tear it all down and start from scratch!" If that's the plan, then why is he selling solutions to fit within the current model?
BedellBrave (02-17-2016)
would those be the same smart people that predicted ACA would doom our economy
or the smart people that predicted ACA would pay for itself in 10 years?
Or the smart people that think Obama is a Kenyan Manchurian Candidate?
Or the smart people that sold you the videos?
Now, they were smart because right here on this very forum a number of people bought that bull schit
I digress
...
BUT, we are talking about single payer
and discussing the nuts and bolts of how it will look.
That is progress
Last edited by 57Brave; 02-17-2016 at 04:11 PM.
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