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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Jeremiah Wright preached hate. ?
    Says the white male never pulled over for driving in a white neighborhood then having to explain to his 7 year old why the police would do that when you were doing nothing wrong except,
    being black in a white neighborhood
    ....

    From where I sit, hate is not the measuring tool
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    Is white shaming the new card from the left?

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    no

    calling BS on willfully ignorant white people that don't/won't take the time to understand the black experience "shaming" is though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Is white shaming the new card from the left?
    The regressive left likes to white shame all the time. That and call those they disagree with on certain issues bigots and homophobes without evidence that it's true. A very nasty and ignorant tactic, but the regressive left really aren't nice people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    Playing a little Monday morning QB here... The biggest mistake the establishment made was that they went for a politician. They went all in for Jeb, and I'm sorry but that was just hilariously misguided. I mean did any of us on this board actually think Jeb had a shot? I think we were all kind of thinking it would probably come down to maybe Cruz and Rubio. I think the establishment was kind of hoping that Carson would be that option B voice. A very likeable outsider candidate, but Carson is obviously just not smooth in his delivery.

    So that brings us to Fiorina. An unknown. Yet she pretty easily commanded the stage against some very seasoned politicians in Jindal, Santorum and Perry. She has weaknesses, but she is arguably the only outsider that bested Trump with her very memorable line. She has strong strengths, and admittedly some weaknesses. But I think she showed in her response to Trump that she could overcome those weaknesses. I think the pubs missed a reasonable outsider candidate here. I think she was pushed aside too early and I think the reason for that (other than name recognition) is because the establishment thought that they were going to get an establishment vs. an anti establishment candidate.

    I think Fiorina is an interesting choice as maybe the spoiler candidate in a contested convention.
    Interesting points. Fiorina suffers from the same double-standard that Hillary suffers from. If she ever puts an edge on her voice, she's characterized as a shrill b*tch. I wonder if she has enough of an organization to convince the party she'd be a viable candidate.

    If it's a contested convention, it will be interesting to see what happens. I'm guessing a Trump v. Cruz v. Kasich battle royal. It will be purists v. pragmatists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    The regressive left likes to white shame all the time. That and call those they disagree with on certain issues bigots and homophobes without evidence that it's true. A very nasty and ignorant tactic, but the regressive left really aren't nice people.


    The most intolerant group there is. You either agree with them or you hate blacks, women and gays.

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    nobody hates anybody, just saying you haven't a clue of the black american experience.
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    Doesn't most of this come back to how both parties love to use laziness, ignorance, and stereotypes to control their followers? Neither side wants their followers to really know what's going on, or to know the full story about pretty much anything. Catch phrases, and stereotypes, and "anything that doesn't go along with me and the message I want to send is racist, or sexist, or ignorant, or lazy, or shifty, or socialist" and probably my favorite of all, "I don't have to do anything different or better or less sinful, criminal, or otherwise terrible, because THEY are just as bad if not worse and they aren't going to change so why should I". We look for candidates we think can win and then try to find as much of their stuff we can live with, with an acceptable amount of vomiting and we convince ourselves they really are good candidates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    nobody hates anybody, just saying you haven't a clue of the black american experience.

    And you do?

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    I actually think Trump
    Should court Condi Rice as VP. That will help him with some in the GOP. It won't stop Runnin or 57 from thinking he's racist but it would help with with woman and some minorities

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    I actually think Trump
    Should court Condi Rice as VP. That will help him with some in the GOP. It won't stop Runnin or 57 from thinking he's racist but it would help with with woman and some minorities
    That's actually a good idea from a strategic standpoint, reach back to the last time the Repub's won, with one of the few members of W's cabinet who actually still has a relatively good reputation, at least as good as possible when we're talking about looking across the aisle. Colin Powell would also be an excellent choice, IMO an even better choice.

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    I just think whites have to recognize that institutional racism remains. I don't know if there are many African-American posters here besides AerchAngel, so he (and perhaps others) are the only ones that truly know what it means to be black in America.

    I grew up a tick-and-a-half North of White Trash in Southern Minnesota in the 1950s and 1960s. The connotation associated with my family's last name wasn't particularly glowing. We didn't have a bad reputation, but if you said the name, most thought "ignorant sh*tkicking sodbusters." But I went to the big city, got a couple of degrees, made my way up in my business, etc., etc. When I put on the suit and tie, no one really knows my background unless I tell them. I'm just a average-looking middle-aged white guy who looks like he might be moderately successful. If I were black--and I obviously can't speak to this--people would likely think "how did HE get here?" African-Americans (and Hispanics and Native Americans and Asian-Americans and African immigrants) all carry with them the burden of impressions that have nothing to do with them individually, but with depictions of their race.

    There is a tendency to generalize--as OKHawk has pointed out--and it's the lazy way to do things. There are good and bad white people, good and bad black people, good and bad in every other race, good and bad gay people, good and bad bicyclists, good and bad environmentalists, good and bad weekly church attenders, and so on and so on. The problem comes when the various racial, ethnic, religious, and intellectual tribes circle the symbolic wagons and unequivocally protect members of their tribe--good or bad--at the expense of the other; again without discernment of relative guilt or innocence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    And you do?
    a clue ? perhaps

    I've been listening to a Malcolm X talk from 1965. His notion of "any snake will do" is vital to black Americans, even to today.

    When a black person is approached by a white person, will that person be the cop that stops them for DWB or is it the cop that takes his little girls kitten out of a tree ?
    Malcolm X saw no difference. Not saying his approach is right or wrong

    But understand K, Malcolm X words ring through that mans head every time he sees Stars and Bars. Every time a KKK Grand Wizard gives an endorsement to a POTUS candidate and that candidate does not refute that endorsement.
    Every time Trayvon Martins killer walks into a police station and is treated like he just J-walked.
    Or the killer of 8 black church goers gets taken for fast food on the way to being booked for murder.
    Or when a city's children are drinking and bathing water contaminated by lead - because ...

    When a black man see's and hears this ****, "any snake will do" is relevant to the time
    No I don't understand the black americans experience- but I do the listening when they do the explaining, and to merely dismiss it as "hate speech" really doesn't accomplish a damn thing

    But let me ask you, do you consider he reaction or anticipation to aggressive bigotry, racism ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    I actually think Trump
    Should court Condi Rice as VP. That will help him with some in the GOP. It won't stop Runnin or 57 from thinking he's racist but it would help with with woman and some minorities
    As if ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin View Post
    If you're a Trump supporter, you're either a bigoted white supremacist or you don't mind teaming up with them. Or being led by one.
    Such a load of bull****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Jeremiah Wright preached hate.
    how so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    I actually think Trump should court Condi Rice as VP. That will help him with some in the GOP. It won't stop Runnin or 57 from thinking he's racist but it would help with with woman and some minorities
    That would be quite a situation. I don't think she'd accept it but it would create some news.

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    After what Trump did to Jeb do you really think Condi would betray the Bush family like that? Dubya was extremely loyal to her and I'd imagine that would be treason for her against the family to do such a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Don View Post
    After what Trump did to Jeb do you really think Condi would betray the Bush family like that? Dubya was extremely loyal to her and I'd imagine that would be treason for her against the family to do such a thing.
    Well to be fair Jeb "really was low energy".

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    I'm curious why all these anti-Trump protesters weren't marching the streets again Obama and Bush for all their violence across the world

    I guess they were more discreet

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