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    Fútbol Discusión

    Arsenal is stupid for not locking up Robin Van Persie 3 years ago

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    Arsenal never locks up anybody.

    Just try and go back to the farm system.

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    futbol?

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    Jozy to Sunderland.

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    Absolute thrashing of the Guatemalan's good start to build momentum for the Gold Cup. Hopefully they can carry this momentum and atone for the disaster of the collapse of the last GOld Cup finals.

    Also, Stu Holden and Mix Diserkud are 2 very exciting creatives. Hopefully Holden stays healthy and Diserkud keeps developing. Also if he develops the finer skills some more, Brek Shea will be the best US international player. Guy is a physical freak and with his flaws is still a great talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Jozy to Sunderland.
    I think it was a good move to leave AZ...it's time for a step up...but I wish he would have latched on with a better team. Oh well, Jozy is the man. RBNY legend.

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    I'm fine with starting on a lesser squad, one that may be more patient cause he's still growing as a player. Dempsey went to Fulham and stayed there for some time before getting to move up. I don't think if he plays to his ability JOzy will have to wait that long, but I'd rather have him getting reps in Sunderland than sitting on the bench elsewhere.

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    Maybe he'll have Deuce as a teammate? Report that Spurs put him on the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acesfull86 View Post
    Maybe he'll have Deuce as a teammate? Report that Spurs put him on the market.
    Not sure if they did or not but they really don't have a place for him. I was hoping he'd become big star with Spurs.

    If he's ok with being a cup player, he probably stays

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Not sure if they did or not but they really don't have a place for him. I was hoping he'd become big star with Spurs.

    If he's ok with being a cup player, he probably stays
    Dempsey will get plenty of PT at spurs. He may be behind Holtby (may) but all it takes is one small injury and he is back in.

    That said, I woudl deal with him going to Sunderland, would love more American's playing together. Then try to get them to go for another American. Need more Americans to play together.

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    You continue to express that you know nothing of Spurs.

    Demspey isn't behind Holtby. Dempsey can basically back up 3 spots, LM, striker, supporting striker.

    The problem is that they have Dembele, Paulinho, Sandro in the midfield of a 4-3-3 and that really leaves no spot for CD because Bale will be on the left (with Townsend likely backing him up).

    At times they have played a 4-2-3-1, but in those 3 spots behind the striker are Holtby, Siggy, Dembele(at times), Lennon. And at stirker, he's inferior to Defoe and Ade.

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    IIRC the average formation for the Spurs was a 4-2-3-1 with Dembele and one of Sandro or Parker at the CDM (though obviously Dembele attacked plenty) then some form of their midfield.

    I also have little doubt that Dempsey>Sigurdsson. Sigurdsson has a much brighter future, but right now Dempsey is a better player. I'd even argue Dempsey over Holtby but I like Holtby a lot.

    It's comical how much you underrate Dempsey. Even in a struggling season for him (which he did struggle for a few months) he was a better player than Sigurdsson or Holtby. I also can say I'm pretty sure he's a better striker than Adebayor. Not that that would be a potential issue anyway, since odds are Adebayor is gonna be on another team.

    I could be wrong about Paulinho, but I imagine he's gonna be brought in to play the back line if you go with that 4-3-3 setup, but then neither Holtby or Sigurdsson are likely to start. If they go 4-2-3-1 he could go back line or up top.

    Though who knows if Paulinho starts immediately, he may take time to break in.

    As I said, I'm fine with Dempsey leaving, would be nice to see him on Sunderland or maybe even make a league switch and join an American teammate in Germany or Italy.

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    They played 4-2-3-1 bc they didn't have the squad to play AVB's preferred 4-3-3. Now they do. It will be Sandro/Paulinho/Dembelee in the midfield.

    On the left will be Bale with Townsend backing him up.

    Dempsey being better than Ade, Siggy, or Holtby is comical.

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    Adebayor had 32 Apps 8 goals 2 assists in all competition for Spurs.

    Dempsey had 42 10 goals 2 assists in all comps.

    Dempsey wasn't the primary striker.

    Go on...

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    Zito,who was that other guy that would constantly post in the soccer thread with you and Giles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Adebayor had 32 Apps 8 goals 2 assists in all competition for Spurs.

    Dempsey had 42 10 goals 2 assists in all comps.

    Dempsey wasn't the primary striker.

    Go on...

    Using goal stats is dumb. Especially using ones that show Ade found the net more often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TURBO View Post
    Zito,who was that other guy that would constantly post in the soccer thread with you and Giles.
    Shabadu, he posted on the free board before hand, and is one of the reasons why I would like a thread in each fortum telling people we moved.

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    I wonder why shabs never signed up at invisionfree...? Well he signed up 7 years ago but he never posted after we migrated there.


    I guess I gave you more credit than you deserved for being "a finisher" zeets...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Using goal stats is dumb. Especially using ones that show Ade found the net more often.
    A striker is supposed to score more goals than a midfielder.

    Also I used a bad stat site, let me do this again off ESPN's stats which seem more accurate

    Adebayor - 27 starts 7 subs 8 goals 1 assists

    Dempsey 30 Starts 11 subs 12 goals 6 assists

    My apologies for the incorrect numbers.

    Also Dempsey compiled a much higher whoscored rating than Adebayor.

    So again

    Go on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BravesFanInSAV View Post
    I wonder why shabs never signed up at invisionfree...? Well he signed up 7 years ago but he never posted after we migrated there.


    I guess I gave you more credit than you deserved for being "a finisher" zeets...
    Shab posted on the free board like soon after the migration. But I think he just posted in a thread then left for a bit.

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