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    The letter to Iran from republicans in the senate...

    So the party hates the president so much they will put party before country

    I mean, imo, it is on the verge of treason

    But hey, way to do it for your base.

    Sickening
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    Cotton is such an effing moron (and this latest stunt really didn't contribute to my opinion of him at all) that he literally could be the US Senator from Oklahoma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    So the party hates the president so much they will put party before country

    I mean, imo, it is on the verge of treason

    But hey, way to do it for your base.

    Sickening
    I wouldn't call it treason, I'd call it worthy of consideration of a censure for the leaders of that movement as well as potentially expulsion. It's just petty. Anyone who votes for a D or R is just voting for more of this bull****.
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    Finally the pubs did something right. I don't believe any of the fake drama bs presented itt by the way.
    thank you weso1!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    I wouldn't call it treason, I'd call it worthy of consideration of a censure for the leaders of that movement as well as potentially expulsion. It's just petty. Anyone who votes for a D or R is just voting for more of this bull****.
    I get your point but this tactic and form of governance is particular to one party. To my mind , in this case by lumping the two parties together in a pox on both houses attitude , is sanctioning the actions of (R).

    If you think this is wrong there is no choice but to decide which of the two you think is right.
    to my mind

    Ideally we have more choices. But the reality is we don't. We have two.
    You are either one or the other

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    "In thirty-six years in the United States Senate, I cannot recall another instance in which Senators wrote directly to advise another country -- much less a longtime foreign adversary -- that the President does not have the constitutional authority to reach a meaningful understanding with them. This letter sends a highly misleading signal to friend and foe alike that that our Commander-in-Chief cannot deliver on America’s commitments -- a message that is as false as it is dangerous," Biden said in a statement released by the White House.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    Finally the pubs did something right. I don't believe any of the fake drama bs presented itt by the way.
    it's a bizzaro world in this country


    republicans made the the Iranian FM the voice of reason in all of this:

    Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif's Response to the Letter of US Senators:

    Asked about the open letter of 47 US Senators to Iranian leaders, the Iranian Foreign Minister, Dr. Javad Zarif, responded that "in our view, this letter has no legal value and is mostly a propaganda ploy. It is very interesting that while negotiations are still in progress and while no agreement has been reached, some political pressure groups are so afraid even of the prospect of an agreement that they resort to unconventional methods, unprecedented in diplomatic history. This indicates that like Netanyahu, who considers peace as an existential threat, some are opposed to any agreement, regardless of its content.
    Zarif expressed astonishment that some members of US Congress find it appropriate to write to leaders of another country against their own President and administration. He pointed out that from reading the open letter, it seems that the authors not only do not understand international law, but are not fully cognizant of the nuances of their own Constitution when it comes to presidential powers in the conduct of foreign policy.
    The Iranian Foreign Minister added that "change of administration does not in any way relieve the next administration from international obligations undertaken by its predecessor in a possible agreement about Iran's peaceful nuclear program." He continued "I wish to enlighten the authors that if the next administration revokes any agreement with the stroke of a pen, as they boast, it will have simply committed a blatant violation of international law.
    He emphasized that if the current negotiation with P5+1 result in a Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, it will not be a bilateral agreement between Iran and the US, but rather one that will be concluded with the participation of five other countries, including all permanent members of the Security Council, and will also be endorsed by a Security Council resolution.
    Zarif expressed the hope that his comments "may enrich the knowledge of the authors to recognize that according to international law, Congress may not modify the terms of the agreement at any time as they claim, and if Congress adopts any measure to impede its implementation, it will have committed a material breach of US obligations.
    The Foreign Minister also informed the authors that majority of US international agreements in recent decades are in fact what the signatories describe as "mere executive agreements" and not treaties ratified by the Senate.
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    If nothing but consistent - once the "clown car" starts rolling - be there or be square

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    **** just got real RT @toddzwillich: tom Cottons office says Bobby Jindal has signed Iran letter
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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    If nothing but consistent - once the "clown car" starts rolling - be there or be square

    from Twitter:

    Simon Maloy ‏@SimonMaloy 4m4 minutes ago

    **** just got real RT @toddzwillich: tom Cottons office says Bobby Jindal has signed Iran letter
    .............

    Do my fellow Brave fans remember when this guy was the latest "see, we have one too" !!!
    That's hilarious. Arguably, the only more egregious dick move than drafting this letter might be belatedly jumping on the bandwagon.

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    Saw a link today, found it interesting.

    http://theantimedia.org/half-the-us-...tted-felonies/
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    This is reprehensible, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    That's hilarious. Arguably, the only more egregious dick move than drafting this letter might be belatedly jumping on the bandwagon.

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    In his defense, he probably had another exorcism to perform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Saw a link today, found it interesting.

    http://theantimedia.org/half-the-us-...tted-felonies/
    How did we devolve to this point ?

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    Not to worry. The problem is solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnAdcox View Post
    Not to worry. The problem is solved.
    Love Borowitz. I don't think he's been quite as good since he joined The New Yorker because he's posting a lot more and it's exclusively political, but he's still one of the funniest people in America by a longshot.

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    Yeah, just like when Pelosi went to Syria - this ain't the best thing for an opposing party to do.

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    Now did the ones bitching the loudest about this, defend Pelosi? Be interesting to dig up an old thread or two, but I suppose that'd mean going over to the Pulpit and it ain't worth the effort. Maybe you guys can tell me where you landed when Pelosi went...
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    Counting down for the explanations why this is so far worse than when my team did something like this, "1, 2, 3..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BedellBrave View Post
    Counting down for the explanations why this is so far worse than when my team did something like this, "1, 2, 3..."
    "Nyah, nyah but Nancy Pelosi." Nice.

    I thought Pelosi's trip was a horse**** play, but the reaction got overheated in places. National Review wanted to clap her in irons. Surely those principled gentleman think the same about this, right?

    This—in concert with inviting Netanyahu to address congress—is wider-spread and specifically aimed at poisoning the well, so one could certainly argue that it's worse, no? More than anything, though, it's just silly and petty.

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    I was gonna say one idiotic, delusional, self serving ahole vs. 47 idiotic, delusional, self serving aholes, but why even bother...

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