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    Net Neutrality

    I don't know how anyone that uses the internet can be against this.
    The pubs are somehow selling this as something that will make the internet less free and usable and it is 100% the opposite. It is mind-boggling. They even used the word "freedom" in their response bill. They really know how to play to their audience's stupidity.
    Yup, major internet providers don't want it. I wonder why that is? They wanna **** you harder.
    Seriously, what is going on with this, and how can one side spew so much misinformation? Any sane person using the internet should not want this. But fox news has people sold against it. mind-boggling.

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    i agree

    i honestly have no idea how this is a thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by yeezus View Post
    I don't know how anyone that uses the internet can be against this.
    The pubs are somehow selling this as something that will make the internet less free and usable and it is 100% the opposite. It is mind-boggling. They even used the word "freedom" in their response bill. They really know how to play to their audience's stupidity.
    Yup, major internet providers don't want it. I wonder why that is? They wanna **** you harder.
    Seriously, what is going on with this, and how can one side spew so much misinformation? Any sane person using the internet should not want this. But fox news has people sold against it. mind-boggling.
    Yeah, there's a big PR effort coming on the right from this one. It's puzzling.

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    Free market>govt controlling internet.
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    whats wrong with how the Internet is now?


    If you don't like a service get another one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    whats wrong with how the Internet is now?


    If you don't like a service get another one.
    That's not a real option in many (most) places across the country. You only have one real broadband provider in much of the country (read, DSL isn't real broadband) unless you have FIOS, Google Fiber, or another similar service that's broadband but not cable, they basically all stay out of each other's territories. I'd love an MVNO type of service where companies can rent access to cable lines and undercut them on cost like Straight Talk etc. do to Verizon etc.

    Seriously ,if you think that the way the internet is run in the country is good, you're drunk or obtuse.

    ANd I don't like the FCC ruling personally. I think it's the lesser of the 2 presented evils, but I'd rather have an open internet where the FCC doesn't touch it but levies heavy penalties on service providers who limit the internet. Honestly if they just opened up the market and allowed more players in the game, then the rest owuld take care of itself, but the home broadband in the US is a true monopoly for the cable companies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Free market>govt controlling internet.
    The government is not "controlling the internet." At all. That statement makes no sense.
    It is attempting to control what internet companies are allowed to do. It is 100% better for YOU, the consumer. It's not even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    whats wrong with how the Internet is now?


    If you don't like a service get another one.
    The internet can easily get much better. Why would you not want a better, faster internet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Free market>govt controlling internet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    whats wrong with how the Internet is now?


    If you don't like a service get another one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    whats wrong with how the Internet is now?


    If you don't like a service get another one.
    I would, except Comcast has a monopoly with the city of Savannah when it comes to internets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Yeah, there's a big PR effort coming on the right from this one. It's puzzling.
    why though? they HAVE to be getting paid by these cable companies. like, huge money. this is not good for anyone but them, because it's good for the people who own/make money from their tactics. it is amazing that the people pushing the hardest against it are able to persuade so many basic consumers to go against this. are we honestly concerned about these companies' abilities to be assholes? I don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeezus View Post
    The internet can easily get much better. Why would you not want a better, faster internet?





    Wouldn't competition also make services and goods, better and faster?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    Wouldn't competition also make services and goods, better and faster?
    doooooooo you think this hurts or helps the issue of competition?
    please read up on this outside of fox news. this is notttttttttttttttt a bad thing for consumers.

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    Yeah, bc having the govt in control of things makes things cheaper, faster, and run smoother? I'm not sure why people would want the govt to have even more power. This is similar to obamacare for the internet.

    Internet taxes could happen.

    Govt could restrict content

    What shouldn't certain applications (like medical) have fast lanes?

    The free market inspires innovation. This creates barriers to entry limiting competition.

    But, we can trust the govt, right. They don't put spying equipment in internet devices, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Yeah, bc having the govt in control of things makes things cheaper, faster, and run smoother? I'm not sure why people would want the govt to have even more power. This is similar to obamacare for the internet.

    Internet taxes could happen.

    Govt could restrict content

    What shouldn't certain applications (like medical) have fast lanes?

    The free market inspires innovation. This creates barriers to entry limiting competition.

    But, we can trust the govt, right. They don't put spying equipment in internet devices, right?
    No one should have fast lanes.

    And if you think our old internet system was a "free market" you're drunk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    No one should have fast lanes.

    And if you think our old internet system was a "free market" you're drunk.
    Sorry, but medical users and such should have fast lanes. Zito is all for ambulances having to sit in traffic with the rest of us. Take the lights and sirens off theses ambulances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    And if you think our old internet system was a "free market" you're drunk.
    i do not understand it. i do not at all.
    it is an objectively wrong "opinion."

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Sorry, but medical users and such should have fast lanes. Zito is all for ambulances having to sit in traffic with the rest of us. Take the lights and sirens off theses ambulances.
    Are you trolling or stupid? Or do you just notget how the internet works?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Sorry, but medical users and such should have fast lanes. Zito is all for ambulances having to sit in traffic with the rest of us. Take the lights and sirens off theses ambulances.
    This is a terrible metaphor.

    Like, this is worse than sturg comparing paying a progressive income tax and asking your friend to pay a higher portion of the restaurant bill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heywood View Post
    This is a terrible metaphor.

    Like, this is worse than sturg comparing paying a progressive income tax and asking your friend to pay a higher portion of the restaurant bill.
    Infinitely worse. At least sturg's analogy involves rich people and paying in both of them. Giles involves nothing the same except somehow net neutrality = taking off sirens and lights from ambulances. I hope he's just trolling, but given his political leanings and general wrongness, you don't knwo.
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