Obama fact checks his republican friends...

[goldfly]

[57Brave]

Funny (not ha-ha) how we have evolved to two totally opposite views of reality

[Tapate50]

Initially I was very concerned at the lack of experience of BO, but his two terms have gone very well. ACA blowing up could have ruined it all, but it went pretty well. I would guess the jury is out on the long term effects, but for now it has been solid.

[Hawk]

but his two terms have gone very well

lol


I worry about y'all sometimes, I really do.

[gilesfan]

Initially I was very concerned at the lack of experience of BO, but his two terms have gone very well. ACA blowing up could have ruined it all, but it went pretty well. I would guess the jury is out on the long term effects, but for now it has been solid.

I sense some sarcasm

[thethe]

I sense some sarcasm

God I hope so...

[Tapate50]

Not really. I don't agree on a lot of things or his implementation of ACA , but it hasn't been a disaster like it has been portrayed. Markets are up (could be cyclical), real estate is rebounding, economy is back, we aren't at war with Russia...

Some of this might be out of his control, but we aren't driving headlong into a monsoon of bad news right now.

Just a little admission on my end. Just my opinion although honestly I don't follow a ton of politics...

I will be interested to see long term ACA effects.

Oh, and I didn't actually watch the video clip I just was making a general comment. Now back to 57's regularly scheduled fist shaking !

[thethe]

I have never felt that a President has any impact on the economy.

I personally think we are at war with Russia now. Just not fighting directly.

[zitothebrave]

I have never felt that a President has any impact on the economy.

I personally think we are at war with Russia now. Just not fighting directly.

We're not at War with Russia. Russia is having an ideological war with their Elite vs the west's elite, and the West's elite ripped their tits. It wasn't a war, just a salvo to see their standing.

[Hawk]

We're not at War with Russia. Russia is having an ideological war with their Elite vs the west's elite, and the West's elite ripped their tits. It wasn't a war, just a salvo to see their standing.

Yeah, so Putin talking about mobilizing his nuclear arsenal during the Crimean conflict was just an ideological hedge.

[zitothebrave]

Yeah, so Putin talking about mobilizing his nuclear arsenal during the Crimean conflict was just an ideological hedge.

Putin is just a chess piece. He isn't in power if the Russian elite don't let him be. Similar to our president and congress if you would. If the rich were truly displeased, the president would be gotten rid of.

[thethe]

We're not at War with Russia. Russia is having an ideological war with their Elite vs the west's elite, and the West's elite ripped their tits. It wasn't a war, just a salvo to see their standing.

I think thats an oversimplication of what is happening.

[Hawk]

Putin is just a chess piece. He isn't in power if the Russian elite don't let him be. Similar to our president and congress if you would. If the rich were truly displeased, the president would be gotten rid of.

The oligarchs don't have remotely near the power over Putin that you believe they do. If they actually did, Crimea would have never happened. Putin is a different breed, he's also one of the richest men on earth. He's not beholden to the elite in the way previous Russian state leaders have been.

[zitothebrave]

The oligarchs don't have remotely near the power over Putin that you believe they do. If they actually did, Crimea would have never happened. Putin is a different breed, he's also one of the richest men on earth. He's not beholden to the elite in the way previous Russian state leaders have been.

I disagree. While I think you're right that Putin is different than some other leaders in Russia have been. He's still the same. He's hardly that popular that they couldn't get rid of him. Crimea was a move that was put into effect to test the West, and the West put a near perfect reaction in place. Didn't incite WW3 and crippled Russia economically.

[Hawk]

I disagree. While I think you're right that Putin is different than some other leaders in Russia have been. He's still the same. He's hardly that popular that they couldn't get rid of him. Crimea was a move that was put into effect to test the West, and the West put a near perfect reaction in place. Didn't incite WW3 and crippled Russia economically.

Way to sip that propagandic Kool Aid.

Russia got to keep Crimea and roughly half of the Ukraine, took a half year economic hit (which they are rebounding astonishingly well from), and became more resolved in the process. Putin is going nowhere.

[Krgrecw]

Way to sip that propagandic Kool Aid.

Russia got to keep Crimea and roughly half of the Ukraine, took a half year economic hit (which they are rebounding astonishingly well from), and became more resolved in the process. Putin is going nowhere.

Putin would knock off anyone in Russia who was a threat to him. He doesn't answer to anyone. His hand picked apprentice in Chechnya, could actually be worse than Putin in the long run.

[cajunrevenge]

I am of the belief that our best form of government is a republican congress and a democrat president. The less they achieve the less damage they do.

[57Brave]

"damage" ?

I dont get that notion/ Our government has in the past 100 years

Created the National Park Service
Built the Grand Coulee Dam
Electrified the Southern US through the TVA
Paved our streets and sidewalks
Enacted the GI Bill

[Hawk]

Anything more ... modern?