Around Baseball 2015 Edition

[Carp]

All those players I listed have done great for longer than Donaldson has.

He's a good player. Great at the moment. Top ten...I say not.

How has Cruz been better for longer? AGon has been great this yr, but he was riding an insane hot streak the first couple of weeks of the season. He has cooled off since. And A-Gon hasn't been an elite player since 2011. I'll take Donaldson over Tulo given Tulo's never plays a full season and isn't that amazing of a hitter outside of Coors. And Harper certainly hasn't been better longer than Donaldson.

[zitothebrave]

I would have done something like Gattis, Wood, CJ and other pieces, but idk if that would have got him.

Including CJ is a net loss. SO no point including him. We would have been better off putting TLS or Gosselin, at least they're cheap and can be cut fo free.

[thethe]

Gattis starting to go into beast mode.

[gilesfan]

No I don't think Teheran is an ace... Strasburg has been inconsistent his whole career

He's actually been remarkably consistent.

[zbhargrove]

He's actually been remarkably consistent.

Cool story

[gilesfan]

Wait Donaldson is top ten all of a sudden?

Harper, Goldy, Stanton, Trout, Adam Jones, McCutcheon, Cabrera, AGon, Tulo, Cruz are all better.

Just to name a few.

Don't know why I even bother, but Donaldson is clearly one of the top 10 players in baseball. I can't fathom how someone would believe Adam Jones is better than him.

[gilesfan]

He's the 3rd-4th best SP on the Nats lol, he isnt an ace.

Still think he's better than Bumgarner?

ROFL

10.3 k/9
2.3 bb/9
0.83 hr/9
3.24 ERA
2.89 FIP
2.79 xFIP

vs.

8.4 k/9
2.1 bb/9
0.81 h4/9
3.06 ERA
3.18 FIP
3.31 xFIP


Yes, I do.

[yeezus]

Don't know why I even bother, but Donaldson is clearly one of the top 10 players in baseball. I can't fathom how someone would believe Adam Jones is better than him.

Or Tulo or AGon at this point.

[gilesfan]

Even wit Julio sucking, he's still having a better year than the phenom.

He's really not, if you want to look at things that are induced by luck.

There are huge red flags for Julio (right now). 5.16 FIP; 4.14 xFIP.

[yeezus]

10.3 k/9
2.3 bb/9
0.83 hr/9
3.24 ERA
2.89 FIP
2.79 xFIP

vs.

8.4 k/9
2.1 bb/9
0.81 h4/9
3.06 ERA
3.18 FIP
3.31 xFIP


Yes, I do.

Someone can have a k/9 of 11 and not be an ace if they throw 180 innings every year. I still think Strasburg has to take the step of throwing a lot more innings to qualify as an ace. Kluber was an ace last year. Price is an ace. Kershaw. Felix. These guys are reliable, steady, and will often pitch deep into games. Strasburg is not there yet despite great rate stats.

[zbhargrove]

Sabermetrics and rate stats don't mean crap if they don't translate to the end results on the field. So far it hasn't for Strasburg and only Nationals fans would say otherwise

[gilesfan]

Sabermetrics and rate stats don't mean crap if they don't translate to the end results on the field. So far it hasn't for Strasburg and only Nationals fans would say otherwise

Umm, if you look at his numbers, they do translate on the field.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...lter=&players=

[gilesfan]

Huge homer for Heyward last night.

[yeezus]

Umm, if you look at his numbers, they do translate on the field.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...lter=&players=

Do you think going deep into games/throwing a lot of innings isn't important when designating someone as an ace? Rate stats are all that matter?

[thethe]

Huge homer for Heyward last night.

After a huge error.

[yeezus]

Huge homer for Heyward last night.

OPS up to a whopping .676.

[sturg33]

Rather than celebrate a nice night from on of our favorite former Braves - the haters make sure to diminish it. Ho hum

[yeezus]

Rather than celebrate a nice night from on of our favorite former Braves - the haters make sure to diminish it. Ho hum

lmao dude, you are great. you always have something to say when something we did this offseason didn't work out. i can only imagine if the roles were revered re: jason and shelby. we ain't spitting nothing but facts now.

[thethe]

Rather than celebrate a nice night from on of our favorite former Braves - the haters make sure to diminish it. Ho hum

He isn't one of GFs favorites. He doesn't even like the BraVes anymore. He is just trolling. I decided to troll back.

[sturg33]

lmao dude, you are great. you always have something to say when something we did this offseason didn't work out. i can only imagine if the roles were revered re: jason and shelby. we ain't spitting nothing but facts now.

What are you talking about? I hope Jason does great. He didn't leave us. We traded him. I hope Shelby does great too.