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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    People around Duke call him the best defender they've had. Over Grant Hill and Battier.
    He's a good defender, but he's not MKG. That's silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holden View Post
    That's why I said they WILL have had a tougher road than Duke. Wisconsin and Kentucky have to play each other - the winner will have a harder road than Duke at that point.

    Not sure why I need to explain this so carefully.
    Kentucky will have had to play 2 top 10 teams. Duke would have had to play 2 plus Michigan state. I don't get the whining about Kentuckys road to the finals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holden View Post
    He's a good defender, but he's not MKG. That's silly.
    Based on what?
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    Not whining. Kentucky got a very fair bracket. No complaints about their road.

    I think Wisconsin/Arizona got screwed a little bit. Virginia definitely. Duke somehow had the easiest bracket as the fourth #1 seed.

    (insert Kenpom-based reply here)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Based on what?
    That's not how it works. You don't get to make an absurd assertion, get challenged on it, then say "prove me wrong."

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    Quote Originally Posted by holden View Post
    That's not how it works. You don't get to make an absurd assertion, get challenged on it, then say "prove me wrong."
    How is it absurd? Winslow is a great defender. He's been called the best defender they have had under K. His defensive metrics are similar or better than MKG at Kentucky. And is certainly a better offensive player.
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    You think Winslow will be one of the best defenders in the NBA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Reading holden talk about Kentucky is like listening to republicans talk about abortions. Jesus christ it's painful.
    Sorry, but it's funny when people who haven't watched college basketball all year are suddenly experts in March. And the ridiculous hate Kentucky gets for "ruining college basketball" is annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holden View Post
    Not whining. Kentucky got a very fair bracket. No complaints about their road.

    I think Wisconsin/Arizona got screwed a little bit. Virginia definitely. Duke somehow had the easiest bracket as the fourth #1 seed.

    (insert Kenpom-based reply here)
    Duke had to play St. Johns, Utah, Gonzaga. 2 top 10 teams; another dangerous team that played well the last 2 months of the season. They also play top 15 team in Mich St.

    Kentucky played Cincy-maybe 35ish, West Virginia-maybe 30ish, and Notre Dame-top 10. Now play probably 2nd best team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holden View Post
    You think Winslow will be one of the best defenders in the NBA?
    Certainly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holden View Post
    Sorry, but it's funny when people who haven't watched college basketball all year are suddenly experts in March. And the ridiculous hate Kentucky gets for "ruining college basketball" is annoying.
    I bet I watch 3 times as many games as you. What did you watch 38 games this year? How is what anyone else says more ridiculous than the thethe level stuff you say about Kentucky players?
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    What have I said about Kentucky players that has been ridiculous? Maybe it was when I said Noel would be a very good player and you laughed at me?
    Last edited by holden; 03-29-2015 at 09:50 PM.

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    Figured Dook would make the FF, insanely easy bracket.

    Similar to 2010, at least they'll face a good team in the title game this time around though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Duke had to play St. Johns, Utah, Gonzaga. 2 top 10 teams; another dangerous team that played well the last 2 months of the season. They also play top 15 team in Mich St.

    Kentucky played Cincy-maybe 35ish, West Virginia-maybe 30ish, and Notre Dame-top 10. Now play probably 2nd best team.
    Dook should have had Arizona or Virginia as their 2 seed.

    Gonzaga is a paper tiger, every single year.

    Utah isnt that good either.

    UK somehow has to play Wisconsin or would have had to play Arizona who has an NBA-sized frontline and a top 5-10 pick with Stanley Johnson as well, yet Dook gets MSU who while good isnt as good in years past.

    Stop being stupid, Dook had an insanely easy bracket, yet was the 3rd or 4th best 1 seed. Gonzaga, ISU, Georgetown, Utah were their 2-5's, get the f out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    Lol Duke "gets" Michigan State. Like they get an easy game in the final four.
    They do, Dook will win by 15-20.

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    BUT GONZAGA AND UTAH WERE 7 AND 8 IN KENPOM

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    Quote Originally Posted by holden View Post
    BUT GONZAGA AND UTAH WERE 7 AND 8 IN KENPOM
    Giles doesnt know much about basketball.

    He's just defending Dook because he likes Okafor.

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    Winslow is a really good player though.

    This makes no sense, Winslow is Dook's most important player, not best, he makes that team go.

    If it's Dook/UK, i'm having three bottles of liquor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holden View Post
    What have I said about Kentucky players that has been ridiculous? Maybe it was when I said Noel would be a very good player and you laughed at me?
    Michael Kidd Gilchrist among other things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Michael Kidd Gilchrist among other things.
    Is MKG not a good player?
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