Official Fire Fredi Thread

[Millwood1Hitter]

There I did it! There I said it! Please Atlanta Braves get rid of this baffoon, our organization can't move forward with him at the helm. It can't get any more obvious, can it? Likeable guy, clueless field general.

All managers, whether great or average make some head scratching decesions throughout the season. Sometimes they work and they appear genius, other times not so much. Every manager seems to have infatuations with certain players, lineups, and pitchers despite having more talented options. The problem with Fredi is he doesn't make a headscratching move here and there that make you say meh, he makes at least 2 or 3 every single freakin game!

Nice guy but if were serious about putting this thing together for the future and putting a team on the field that can legitimately contend for the WS year in and year out, Fredi is not that guy.

[Braves1976]

[CyYoung31]

If we were really serious about contending year-in-year-out, we...

You know what? I'm just mad we traded Heyward.

[nsacpi]

If we were really serious about contending year-in-year-out, we...

You know what? I'm just mad we traded Heyward.

You need to move on dude and enjoy the never-say-die spirit and more modern approach of this year's team.

[yeezus]

A good manager won't make this team legitimately compete, but a bad one will make it a lot more difficult for a good team to legitimately compete. Fredi will be here when the talent is supposed to pour in, and he won't make it pretty.

How anyone can argue that he isn't terrible baffles me.

[clvclv]

Interested in being taken seriously?

Learn to spell "buffoon".

Seriously folks, getting upset over Fredi's decisions during a rebuilding season with a team that even the MOST OPTIMISTIC of us expect to win 70-75 games is like screaming at paint because it's not drying fast enough. There's ABSOLUTELY nothing that Fredi can do to make this team a playoff contender (and neither can any other Manager), so give it a rest or go on and jump your *ss off the ledge.

[bravesnumberone]

You fail to see the point. That we are going to stick with this moron is defeating the purpose of when we get good again.

[clvclv]

You fail to see the point. That we are going to stick with this moron is defeating the purpose of when we get good again.

How about we worry about "getting good again"...then deal with the Manager.

[bravesnumberone]

How about we worry about "getting good again"...then deal with the Manager.

That'd be logical except he won't be dealt with. We'll be right back where we were. There is nothing good that comes from him managing this team. I give less than a **** how many games they win with this mediocre roster.

[Dalyn]

That'd be logical except he won't be dealt with. We'll be right back where we were. There is nothing good that comes from him managing this team. I give less than a **** how many games they win with this mediocre roster.

Yep. There's no way in hell they asked Fredi to deal with two years of rebuilding without promising him 2017, and that's without even considering the damage he's doing to the growth of the rebuild. Jace is a perfect example of Fredi cutting a young player off at the knees. Stella! is another.

[clvclv]

That'd be logical except he won't be dealt with. We'll be right back where we were. There is nothing good that comes from him managing this team. I give less than a **** how many games they win with this mediocre roster.

Your opinion.

Most of you need to see your Doctor and get some blood pressure medication.

[gilesfan]

How about we worry about "getting good again"...then deal with the Manager.

Do you place any value on having a competent manager to develop players?

[Dalyn]

Interested in being taken seriously?

Learn to spell "buffoon".

Seriously folks, getting upset over Fredi's decisions during a rebuilding season with a team that even the MOST OPTIMISTIC of us expect to win 70-75 games is like screaming at paint because it's not drying fast enough. There's ABSOLUTELY nothing that Fredi can do to make this team a playoff contender (and neither can any other Manager), so give it a rest or go on and jump your *ss off the ledge.

Yeah. Cause it's just about this year.

[clvclv]

Yeah. Cause it's just about this year.

For many of you, obviously.

Seriously, Joe Maddon's not making this team a contender as it's constructed today. What difference does it make when you're just not very good? Martin, Cunniff, and Johnson have now pitched in 8 of the first 14 games. Stults' outing tonight was the fifth time a SP has lasted 6 innings.

If you think it's bad now and you're this *issed, you might as well look for something else to do all summer.

[Dalyn]

For many of you, obviously.

No, it isn't. Fredi has been a ****ty manager for the Braves since 2011, and he was kind of crappy as a third base coach, too.

[clvclv]

No, it isn't. Fredi has been a ****ty manager for the Braves since 2011, and he was kind of crappy as a third base coach, too.

OK.

[clvclv]

If you really want a legitimate reason to fire Fredi, wait until he hangs Teheran, Wood, or Miller's *sses out to dry and makes them throw 88 pitches in 2.1 IP like Brad Ausmus did David Price tonight, otherwise you simply don't have much.

[Dalyn]

If you really want a legitimate reason to fire Fredi, wait until he hangs Teheran, Wood, or Miller's *sses out to dry and makes them throw 88 pitches in 2.1 IP like Brad Ausmus did David Price tonight, otherwise you simply don't have much.

I guess you missed how he treated Teheran the start before last?

[Julio3000]

Interested in being taken seriously?

Learn to spell "buffoon".

Seriously folks, getting upset over Fredi's decisions during a rebuilding season with a team that even the MOST OPTIMISTIC of us expect to win 70-75 games is like screaming at paint because it's not drying fast enough. There's ABSOLUTELY nothing that Fredi can do to make this team a playoff contender (and neither can any other Manager), so give it a rest or go on and jump your *ss off the ledge.

Nobody thinks that getting rid of Fredi would make this team a contender. But Cy—who has been more charitable than most at giving Fredi the benefit of the doubt—nailed it in one incomplete sentence.

If we want a perennial contender and a winning culture, we need to be as willing to to make changes in the staff as we are making changes on the field. A lot of the guys who are considered good managers today didn't get dropped fortuitously onto winning clubs. They started with young and/or rebuilding teams and were able to contribute to their growth and ultimate success. I think there's a legit case to be made that someone else could do that better than Fredi.

[dak]

I think we can do better than Fredi Gonzalez in the long run. My sense is that Hart and Coppolella know we can do better too. I don't have a major problem with letting him coach in this rebuilding year, and I don't think we were in a great position this offseason to recruit a difference-making manager.

I predict we'll have a new manager come 2016 and it will be a hire with a better pedigree than we could have gotten last November.