Two Cops Shot in Hattiesburg

[sturg33]

To be clear, I'm not defending killing cops. It is pathetic and hopefully they get the life sentence.

But over 1100 people were killed by cops last year (that were reported). 100+ cops were killed.

Those numbers are off, folks. Why is it so hard to admit that?

[thethe]

To be clear, I'm not defending killing cops. It is pathetic and hopefully they get the life sentence.

But over 1100 people were killed by cops last year (that were reported). 100+ cops were killed.

Those numbers are off, folks. Why is it so hard to admit that?

How many of those cops were doing something illegal at the time they were killed?

How many civilians were doing something illegal at the time they were killed?

Doesn't justify their deaths but if the first illegal act doesn't happen the death doesn't happen.

[Hawk]

Hmm... not sure I said that.

Would be nice if the other number was significantly smaller

I understood the inference.

It's okay, no need to backtrack from your position.

[sturg33]

How many of those cops were doing something illegal at the time they were killed?

How many civilians were doing something illegal at the time they were killed?

Doesn't justify their deaths but if the first illegal act doesn't happen the death doesn't happen.

I don't know - there's countless videos of cops shooting first, and asking questions (or planting evidence) later.

Imagine how much was not caught on video

[Hawk]

To be clear, I'm not defending killing cops. It is pathetic and hopefully they get the life sentence.

But over 1100 people were killed by cops last year (that were reported). 100+ cops were killed.

Those numbers are off, folks. Why is it so hard to admit that?

It's not 'hard to admit' -- but it is certainly an embarassingly superficial take on a complicated and delicate issue.

[sturg33]

It's not 'hard to admit' -- but it is certainly an embarassingly superficial take on a complicated and delicate issue.

I think the number of people killed by those who are protecting and serving is embarrassing.

[Hawk]

I think the number of people illegitimately killed by those who are protecting and serving is embarrassing.

FIFY.

[sturg33]

FIFY.

Sure.

But even if someone is doing something wrong - say smoking weed - I don't think that would constitute a legitimate death.

But I understand we disagree.

[thethe]

It's incredible to me that as a society we are getting to the point where criminals are viewed in a better light than police officers.

[sturg33]

It's incredible to me that as a society we are getting to the point where criminals are viewed in a better light than police officers.

I think you're missing the issue.

The issue is that too often their interchangeable

[Hawk]

But even if someone is doing something wrong - say smoking weed - I don't think that would constitute a legitimate death.

When I hear reports of police officers executing citizens in street for smoking marijuana I will absolutely join the underground resistance.

Until that time, I prefer to reside in the mental state of reality.

[thethe]

I think you're missing the issue.

The issue is that too often their interchangeable

Define too often please.

[sturg33]

When I hear reports of police officers executing citizens in street for smoking marijuana I will absolutely join the underground resistance.

Until that time, I prefer to reside in the mental state of reality.

Well, we saw video recently of a cop shooting a guy several times for running away. Then tried to plant evidence on the guy. You say "HE WAS RUNNING AWAY!!! DON'T RUN - AND YOU DONT DIE!"

I'll fully admit I'm more concerned with the cop's actions than whatever the individual did that made him think he needed to run

[Oklahomahawk]

You know somewhere Joseph Goebbels is looking up from the pits of hell and smiling, Pavlov too though I'm not as sure where he's looking from.

[gilesfan]

To be clear, I'm not defending killing cops. It is pathetic and hopefully they get the life sentence.

But over 1100 people were killed by cops last year (that were reported). 100+ cops were killed.

Those numbers are off, folks. Why is it so hard to admit that?

This appears to be the dumbest argument I've ever read.

[sturg33]

This appears to be the dumbest argument I've ever read.

Cool. Hopefully that civilian number keeps getting bigger so we can get all the scum off the planet

[Hawk]

You know somewhere Joseph Goebbels is looking up from the pits of hell and smiling

Given that Goebbels was a fascist propagandist (and an excellent one at that) he's definitely not smiling at a society whose elements prefer to lay out police over criminals as a result of several well-publicized murders.

[zitothebrave]

One of the cops was black. If this was 2 white cops this thread would be 30 pages longer.

[Hawk]

I'll fully admit I'm more concerned with the cop's actions than whatever the individual did that made him think he needed to run

No comment, I guess.

[thethe]

One of the cops was black. If this was 2 white cops this thread would be 30 pages longer.

I've never made this a race issue. You are either a civilized person or not. The fact that this cop was black should shed the race question. This is not a black and white issue. This is a deadbeat issue.