Beer

[gilesfan]

I haven't been in one, but I know the players involved in a handful of local ones and have tried a lot of the different beers offered.

Im not sure if this is the case in different locations, but they cannot serve food here so the amount of time a consumer spends in the brewery is limited. Not only that, but they also have to compete with themselves (ie bars that they distribute to) Not sure if any have or allow growler fills.

Actually a decent article...http://beer-runner.blogspot.com/2013...er-bubble.html

[Tapate50]

I know one person that started home brewing and has made it a job. Most people do it as a hobby. Those doing it as a hobby aren't opening breweries. Those opening breweries know their **** and are attempting to make it their career through a business. The same way any business owner does things. That's fine that that's your opinion. I'd think every person opening a brewery wishes to, eventually, have their beer nationwide. However, breweries can be very successful not being nationwide (yuengling for example). The more craft beer, the merrier for craft beer drinkers. This thread isn't for miller lite.

I would like to point out the thread is titled "Beer" not "hippy home brews".

I kid I kid.

But seriously, where can I get the best Miller Lite money can buy? draft or bottle? what say ye?

[zitothebrave]

You might think so, but I honestly think some head-brewers are entirely content with staying regional, if not purely local.

Russian River is famous for not expanding. The Alchemist is doing a slow growth rather than losing control of their business to investors for rapid growth. Even then they probably don't want to expand too far out of Vermont, you can tell they pride themselves on being very Vermont.

I think expansion is something most breweries would love, but it's not possible and some people want to keep it small and keep control over therir entire operation.

[zitothebrave]

I haven't been in one, but I know the players involved in a handful of local ones and have tried a lot of the different beers offered.

Im not sure if this is the case in different locations, but they cannot serve food here so the amount of time a consumer spends in the brewery is limited. Not only that, but they also have to compete with themselves (ie bars that they distribute to) Not sure if any have or allow growler fills.

Actually a decent article...http://beer-runner.blogspot.com/2013...er-bubble.html

THey're not really "competing" with those bars because they're selling it wholesale. It's a different revenue stream. If people like the beer from the growler at the bar they may go to the brewery. If the brewery is smart, they offer beer you can only get at the brewery. To pick on 2 NJ breweries, Carton has their "tippy" which are test batches of beer and you can't find that outsideof their brewery, Kane does small test batches of things hat you can then try at the brewery. They're 2 places that gladly sell their beer to bars and liquor stores who do growler fills. Wholesale si profitable for both the brewer and the purchaser.

[jpx7]

THey're not really "competing" with those bars because they're selling it wholesale. It's a different revenue stream. If people like the beer from the growler at the bar they may go to the brewery. If the brewery is smart, they offer beer you can only get at the brewery.

[zitothebrave]

Troegs Hopback. makes me miss home so much.

[goldfly]

If the brewery is smart, they offer beer you can only get at the brewery

can't be done as of right now in Georgia under current law

and i am guessing in some other states as well

[jpx7]

If the brewery is smart, they offer beer you can only get at the brewery.

can't be done as of right now in Georgia under current law

[goldfly]

Have this on draft at the house now too btw:

[goldfly]

under georgia law you can't buy the beer at the brewery. it has to be sold by a distributor

it's a 3 tier system

it's bull**** and only protects the good old boys. it should be disbanded

[zitothebrave]

under georgia law you can't buy the beer at the brewery. it has to be sold by a distributor

it's a 3 tier system

it's bull**** and only protects the good old boys. it should be disbanded

If that's the case then Gilesfan's scenario of breweries being competed with by bars who sell their growlers is still wrong.

BTW New Jersey had sort of similar laws not that long ago so there may be hope on the horizon.

[gilesfan]

can't be done as of right now in Georgia under current law

and i am guessing in some other states as well

You get the same beer at local bars that you get at brewery here.

Talk to any brewer here. Their number 1 concern is competing with bars; ie the people their purchase their product. Breweries typically close really early for this reason.

[zitothebrave]

You get the same beer at local bars that you get at brewery here.

Talk to any brewer here. Their number 1 concern is competing with bars; ie the people their purchase their product. Breweries typically close really early for this reason.

If they can't compete that's their fault. How can someone buying your product be bad for your business?

[goldfly]

You get the same beer at local bars that you get at brewery here.

Talk to any brewer here. Their number 1 concern is competing with bars; ie the people their purchase their product. Breweries typically close really early for this reason.

that doesn't really make sense

they are closing cause they can't compete with the people that are buying their product and selling it?

[gilesfan]

that doesn't really make sense

they are closing cause they can't compete with the people that are buying their product and selling it?

If you are a bar a half mile from Joe Blow brewing company and people aren't coming into your bar to drink Joe Blow Brew because they would rather just go to Joe Blow Brewery, you don't see how this would be an issue?

[jpx7]

If you are a bar a half mile from Joe Blow brewing company and people aren't coming into your bar to drink Joe Blow Brew because they would rather just go to Joe Blow Brewery, you don't see how this would be an issue?

Then your bar is lame?

[gilesfan]

Then your bar is lame?

A lame bar that doesn't buy your brew anymore.

[jpx7]

A lame bar that doesn't buy your brew anymore.

Thereby sending even more customers down the street to Joe Blow Brewing Company.

[gilesfan]

Thereby sending even more customers down the street to Joe Blow Brewing Company.

The volume of sales at the brewery are miniscule compared to other bars.

[zitothebrave]

If you are a bar a half mile from Joe Blow brewing company and people aren't coming into your bar to drink Joe Blow Brew because they would rather just go to Joe Blow Brewery, you don't see how this would be an issue?

So if the Brewery is making money, then why does that bar sale really matter? Either things aren't what you're describing or they ran a ****ty business.