That (Leopold Brothers) Fernet Porter pushes Odell way over the top of the pile, for me.
I think so. I'm not a big Stone fan. I really like Green Flash, and I love Lagunitas, but I (totally unfairly) count the latter as a Chicago brewery now. But for real: Pliny the Elder doesn't even scratch Russian River's surface. Damnation, Sanctification, Supplication, Blind Pig, Salvation—their lineup is deep, and all of it impressive as hell.