http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-b...a-salary-dump/
Pretty good article about what adjustments Maybin has made and the effects on his swing\results. Worth a read.
ERG, spelling error I missed tryng to type too fast. SORRY!
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-b...a-salary-dump/
Pretty good article about what adjustments Maybin has made and the effects on his swing\results. Worth a read.
ERG, spelling error I missed tryng to type too fast. SORRY!
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The Kimbrel trade was by far our best move this off-season.
JohnAdcox (06-05-2015)
It may not turn out to be the sexiest deal in retrospect, if one or more of the kids from the other trades become studs, but it is potentially the most important deal because it makes restocking the team financially feasible.
It bought the FO some credibility with me, because it indicated that they were serious and sensible about rebuilding. We know that liberty isn't going to loosen the purse strings substantially, but now we know we've got the ability to add guys in the next couple years. The fact that we got such a nice piece in Maybin (to say nothing of Wisler) is just so much gravy.
After reading the article I'm even more optimistic on Maybin. I think we at least have either CF or RF (Nick moved to LF) locked up for the next 2-3 years.
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JohnAdcox (06-05-2015)
My preferences on how to handle Maybin in order of best to worst . . .
1) Trade him at the deadline or in the offseason.
2) Keep him as a platoon corner OF / backup CF and find a LHH with solid defense to complement him (preferably someone better than Cunny).
3) Keep him as an everyday CF.
JohnAdcox (06-05-2015)
I understand the scepticism when it comes to Maybin but I just don't see why we would want to trade him. This isn't another slap hitter and we obviously need power. Unless we are able to convince Justin Upton to sign with us I just don't see how we are going to get any power in the outfield.
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JohnAdcox (06-05-2015)
Maybin has always been talented. Although small, its a chance that he has hit a groove with Seitzer. I'd let him play out his deal and see where we go from there. He would at worst be one of the best 4th OF in baseball I'd think.
Ivermectin Man
Making the following assumptions:
1. Markakis is set in a corner spot
2. Mallex Smith will be given every chance in CF by 2017 at the latest
3. An impact bat will be acquired for RF/LF
Then you trade Maybin the second a team offers the trade value a starting-caliber CFer with 2+ years of reasonably priced control would command (I will not pretend to know what that would include).
However, if the team continues to hover around the edge of contention, I would be against trading away any MLB talent.
Quite sure I'm the biggest Maybin-hound around since I've been openly calling for the FO to find a way to get him for at least a couple years before we got him. While it's nice be able to pat yourself on the back every once-in-awhile when you're right, this isn't intended to be an "I told you so" gusher. That said, we're seeing the real Cam now - this is the guy scouts absolutely raved about when he was drafted, when he was included in the deal to get Miguel Cabrera, and the guy the Padres thought they were getting when they gave him his current contract and thought they got an absolute steal.
http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/ba...2k12_30qpadres
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/minorleagues/...top&pid=457727
"Cameron Maybin is a very athletic MLB bodied, projectable 6'3/195 OF from Arden, NC. To no ones surprise Maybin was one of the stars of the showcase, almost matching Justin Upton in his speed/power combination."
http://www.perfectgame.org/Players/P...e.aspx?ID=5696
This "salary dump" could very well put the Braves in a position to call J-Up's representatives and tell them "make us your last call once you think you've gotten your highest offer" next winter and then offer to beat that number by $1 million per. Suddenly you've got a legitimate contender ( not playoff contender, World Series contender). Pay whatever you need to to get J-Up back and spend the rest of the money on Wieters instead of elsewhere and you've got one of the deepest lineups in the game...
Peterson, Maybin, Freeman, Upton, Wieters, Johnson, Markakis, Simmons
Re-sign Jim Johnson, convert Banuelos into a RP, add a healthy Shae Simmons and Vizcaino and you've got another dominant bullpen...
Grilli, Johnson, Banuelos, Simmons, Avilan, Chris Withrow, Vizcaino
Tuck Martin and Williams Perez away at Gwinnett to stay stretched out in case of injury, and I'd be happy to go to battle with Miller, Wood, Teheran, Folty, and Wisler.
If you need more pitching, you've got Peraza and Mallex Smith to trade for it. If Chris Johnson falters, you slide Peterson over and plug Peraza in. The possibilities (and likey answers) are endless AND in-house.
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J-Up - 7-8 years/$175-$216 million ($25-$27 million per)
Wieters - 5 years/$45-50 million ($9-$10 million per)
Johnson - 2-3 years/$6-$12 million ($3-$4 million per)
If you could get them for those dollars, you'd still have plenty of financial flexibility in the event you needed to add pitching during the season.
Last edited by clvclv; 06-05-2015 at 03:16 PM.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
This is a very solid plan, and pretty much the exact type of thing I hope the team has in mind. You had Maybin and CJ in the starting lineup, and while I'm pretty sure Mallex and Perez will be pushing for playing time in CF, 3B and 2B by next year, they at least open up interesting trade scenarios and backup plans.
CJ especially, I don't see him being anything more than a bench player or off the roster entirely by 2017. He is literally the last bit of dead weight the team needs to shed.
It would be crazy to give JUp upwards of $30M per year, and I am about the biggest JUp homer around. Have to figure Wieters will get $18M+ for 5+ years, and I can't imagine the Braves going 5+ years on a catcher. I would probably avoid giving a BP arm a 3 year deal as well.
Has there EVER been a statement and question a certain someone should absolutely never have made and asked publicly more than...
Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?