He was signed I believe in 2009 before Wren had a chance to completely dismantle the proud Braves organization. You know, when he ran out someone who is considered oneof the best in the business.Originally Posted by sturg33
He was signed I believe in 2009 before Wren had a chance to completely dismantle the proud Braves organization. You know, when he ran out someone who is considered oneof the best in the business.
Natural Immunity Croc
Start another one of these threads next time he's on the bump while your at it OP. Seems to work out well for Willy p.
Ivermectin Man
lol
Learn when players were brought into the organization before you make a foolish statement.
Natural Immunity Croc
Overall Wren's drafts weren't good, but obviously he did get some good players. I really don't get the defense of Wren. Were you guys really that in love with him when he was here? I was a big Wren defender up till he signed CJ long term.
thank you weso1!
50PoundHead (06-11-2015), Tapate50 (06-16-2015)
So Wren gets no credit for anything he did while in tenure... He was the GM that drafted/signed A LOT of good major league talent (many of which our part of the core you love so much)...
And supposedly I'm the one with an agenda
He's been a pleasant surprise thus far. He's strike-to-ball is about 60/40, which is a bit low for a guy like him. But he's been a ground ball pitcher coming up through the minors (although that ratio hasn't been as heavily weighted since his promotion, but we're still dealing with a small sample). It's never good to pitch from behind in the count, but if he can keep the ball in the park, that's not that big a problem.
Braves1976 (06-11-2015)
Agreed Wren did some good things.
Natural Immunity Croc
Claiming Wren dismantled the organization is a joke. Some of his moves were terrible, but the team won.
"Yes, I did think Aldrich was good UNTIL I SAW HIM PLAY. "- thethe
goldfly (06-16-2015)
Dismantling the organization did not have to do anything with player personal
Natural Immunity Croc
or wins and losses.
"Yes, I did think Aldrich was good UNTIL I SAW HIM PLAY. "- thethe
Process over results
That's always the right approach
Natural Immunity Croc
Got to give credit, when credit is due.
Just now getting to watch tonights game and Perez looked the best he's looked since coming up. Did a much better job of getting ahead early and making them hit his pitches. Must say I am/was impressed and hope he can duplicate tonight's start on a regular basis and if he can, then he may just make a good 5th starter. I'm still not sold, but he is slowly making me eat my words and making me a believer.
Great game Williams!
"Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon"
NinersSBChamps (06-16-2015)
According to thethe in another thread, Wren doesn't get credit for Braxton Davidson either.
jpx7 (06-16-2015)
Dos William doing pretty well. This thread is an excellent antijinx.
Ivermectin Man
jpx7 (06-16-2015)
:-)
You Latin guys.
As a starter. 7.25 K/9, 3.75 BB/9, 0.25 HR/9, 3.27 FIP. Very good numbers. I don't expect that HR rate to stay that low but even with a bump a mid 3's FIP would still be excellent for his spot in the rotation. Hope he keeps it up.
Walk rate needs to come down. He's had to pitch behind in the count a bit too much. But I've been a fan for a while. Love all those DPs he generates with the sinker.
I think you unload him...while his value is still high...Unload that @ss and net something significant in return...if not, fck it and keep him
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