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    Nikki Haley To Call For Confederate Flag To Be Removed From South Carolina Capitol:

    Guess that sound we hear is the 20th century trainin' into South Carolina.

    Hey Hawk, makin sense yet ?

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    Last week, the Confederate flag fluttered at full-staff in front of the South Carolina State House while the American flag and the state's palmetto flag were lowered to half-mast in honor of the nine bible study members shot dead by 21-year-old Dylann Roof at Emanuel AME Church, the oldest black congregation in the South.
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    EXCLUSIVE - GOP US Sen Tim Scott is joining the chorus of officials calling for the Confederate flag to be removed from the Statehouse today

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    maybe mississippi can change their racist flag next

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    lol. I love that Scott and Haley are crumbling under political pressure over this.

    I hope someone nails them for not wanting to do this years ago.
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    sure did get quiet here

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    sure did get quiet here
    Some of us aren't collecting social security yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 57Brave View Post
    Guess that sound we hear is the 20th century trainin' into South Carolina.

    Hey Hawk, makin sense yet ?
    Oh, it's making plenty of sense.

    Something that hasn't been addressed in almost two decades is suddenly of massive importance because it's politically toxic to take any other position. To kind of echo what Heywood said, I'd have much more respect for the process if it wasn't unfurling (no pun) the way that it is.

    To be completely honest with you, I think this makes race relations worse in the state (in the short term, at least).

    But I'd glad to sense that you think real progress is being made here. Mississippi next right?

    Will be quite interesting to see how the legislature responds.
    Last edited by Hawk; 06-22-2015 at 02:26 PM.

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    The First Step of 12 steps of Recovery is admitting that there is a problem.
    I will take the acknowledgement of a problem as progress.

    Another slogan used in 12 step programs is
    "Progress not perfection"

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    @POTUS, @VP will be in #Charleston Friday to attend funeral of Sen. Clementa Pinckney. @POTUS to deliver eulogy #CharlestonShooting #chsnews

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    This is going to be very interesting.

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    Local paper is calling up each member of the legislature and pressing them for immediate response on their vote.

    Here's the live results: http://www.postandcourier.com/apps/p...ages&ID=432782

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    I'll just say this: Some upstate politicians are considerably more stubborn than you might imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Local paper is calling up each member of the legislature and pressing them for immediate response on their vote.

    Here's the live results: http://www.postandcourier.com/apps/p...ages&ID=432782

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    I'll just say this: Some upstate politicians are considerably more stubborn than you might imagine.
    Not if you live in the Upstate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Not if you live in the Upstate.
    Isn't this one of yours?

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    SC Sen. Lee Bright says "Stalinistic" to rewrite history. Wants at least more time for debate before state has has #ConfederateFlag dbate

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    I kind of want a public referendum on this. Would that be weird?

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    Grateful that Haley and Scott are doing so. I'll leave the reading of their motives to others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk View Post
    Isn't this one of yours?

    Jeremy Borden
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    SC Sen. Lee Bright says "Stalinistic" to rewrite history. Wants at least more time for debate before state has has #ConfederateFlag dbate

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    I kind of want a public referendum on this. Would that be weird?
    I'm not surprised he wants more time for debate. 150 years isn't nearly enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heywood View Post
    lol. I love that Scott and Haley are crumbling under political pressure over this.

    I hope someone nails them for not wanting to do this years ago.

    You think a black man and anIndian woman would be big fans of the flag to begin with?

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    BREAKING: Governor asks that focus remain on church shooting victims, not on Confederate flag issue.

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    Hah.

    (and I thought we were supposed to be angry at guns, too?)
    Last edited by Hawk; 06-22-2015 at 03:29 PM.

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    Strom Thurmond's son, State Senator Paul Thurmond is at Governor Haley's press conference calling for the removal of the Confederate Flag.

    Jennifer Berry Hawes
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    Rep. Mike Anthony: Take flag down tomorrow so it's gone before Sen. Pinckney's casket & family arrive at Statehouse on Wed. @postandcourier
    Last edited by Hawk; 06-22-2015 at 03:37 PM.

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    This started (this time) with Black Lives Matter. An outgrowth from the Trayvon Martin event.

    No shots fired, not windows broken , no fires or arrests of participants.
    Maybe these people are on to something ?

    Strom Thurmonds kid - huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krgrecw View Post
    You think a black man and anIndian woman would be big fans of the flag to begin with?
    I have nothing bad to say about Scott beyond run-of-the-mill political differences, but Haley would wear the Confederate flag as a scarf or put it in a wood chipper if either would guarantee her advancement.

    That said, I applaud this move.

    Hawk, as for your musing about a referendum, I'd be really curious to see how that would go (purely for academic reasons), and it's interesting to note that the folks who are elected on a statewide ballot have all come out front on this quickly.

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