6/23/2015 MINORS THREAD TUESDAY ... All-Star Gaemes... Smith: Alex with an 'M'

[Enscheff]

I'm fine with trying to go after that talent, just not at the expense of what you suggested. If you're willing to trade Wood/Miller plus 1-2 good prospects, you can get someone with similar talent who has actually proven themselves already.

Such as? Pre-arb guys with Baez's talent are not available at any price if they have already proven themselves.

[smootness]

Such as? Pre-arb guys with Baez's talent are not available at any price if they have already proven themselves.

Everyone that isn't on the Trout/Harper level is available for the right price. Baez has a lot of talent, but I don't think he's ever going to be a guy like that. To be honest, I don't have any names off the top of my head.

But regardless of what else is available, I'm not giving up that package for Javier Baez.

[thethe]

Everyone that isn't on the Trout/Harper level is available for the right price. Baez has a lot of talent, but I don't think he's ever going to be a guy like that. To be honest, I don't have any names off the top of my head.

But regardless of what else is available, I'm not giving up that package for Javier Baez.

With all the specialization that exists now in the big leagues relating to relief pitching swing and miss guys are going to be a thing of the past.

[chop2chip]

With all the specialization that exists now in the big leagues relating to relief pitching swing and miss guys are going to be a thing of the past.

You should go to Fangraphs and look at the offensive leaderboards and see how many of the top hitters in baseball have high strikeout rates. Hint: more have strikeout rates over 20% than don't (including Harper aka "the best hitter in baseball")

[thethe]

You should go to Fangraphs and look at the offensive leaderboards and see how many of the top hitters in baseball have high strikeout rates. Hint: more have strikeout rates over 20% than don't (including Harper aka "the best hitter in baseball")

when he is half the player that Harper is then I'll consider it

[50PoundHead]

Yes, he was our 12th rounder from a JUCO I think. I'm pretty sure he had two hits yesterday, too.

12th rounder. Georgia high school kid who played JC ball at Western Oklahoma (a second-tier JC), the same school that produced Andrelton Simmons. Supposedly has tools to spare.

[chop2chip]

when he is half the player that Harper is then I'll consider it

Red herring thethe... That's not the point I, or you for that matter, were making.

[thethe]

Red herring thethe... That's not the point I, or you for that matter, were making.

Baez also projects to strike out more than basically all of those hitters that you are referencing

[Heyward]

Maybin, Smith, Markakis may be ok next year, depending who else they add, but we need some kind of power minus Freeman.

And i wouldnt trade for Baez.

[chop2chip]

Baez also projects to strike out more than basically all of those hitters that you are referencing

Maybe marginally due to his high strikeout rate last season, but there are players that have similar strikeout rates (around 30%) that do just fine. Would you not trade for Joc Pederson for that reason?

[smootness]

Maybin, Smith, Markakis may be ok next year, depending who else they add, but we need some kind of power minus Freeman.

And i wouldnt trade for Baez.

Well, we don't really have any this year, and our offense is fine. As long as we have quality hitters throughout the lineup, we'll score enough runs. Our pitching needs more improvement than our offense right now, strangely enough.

[zbhargrove]

Good lord, please no Baez unless it's for one second tier prospect. Why do we want a BJ Upton clone with less speed? Come to think of it, Melvin is probably better.

[50PoundHead]

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[rico43]

And this is a tuna.

[JohnAdcox]

There is too much fascination with power. First and foremost we need good hitters.

And the church said Amen.

[Julio3000]

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[smootness]

Rico, how do you figure out which minor-league pitchers are scheduled to start, and is there any way to find out before the day of the game? I plan on going to see Rome when Toussaint is scheduled to pitch, but I don't know when that will be.