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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    There is actually a chance he will improve in that dept
    In all seriousness... I don't think I could think of another player who played nearly every game, was paid over $10M, and did not hit a HR... maybe ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    In all seriousness... I don't think I could think of another player who played nearly every game, was paid over $10M, and did not hit a HR... maybe ever
    he'll get his strength back after the break......all his strength comes from his neck

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    In all seriousness... I don't think I could think of another player who played nearly every game, was paid over $10M, and did not hit a HR... maybe ever
    It's a good thing you are still complaining about a 115 wRC OF.

    Let it go man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ2dollas View Post
    GOLD glove.

    3 yrs and 33 million left.
    You were just talking about signing a LF in the other thread.

    Take a gander at some of the LF's signed in the offseason.

    Cuddyer - 0.3 WAR (costs 22 million plus a draft pick)
    Hanley - -0.3 WAR (cost 88 million plus a draft pick)
    Melky - -0.8 WAR (cost 42 million plus a draft pick)

    Obviously I'm cherry picking considering there were some good value signings. I was one of those that preferred Aoki among other alternatives. I don't like the Markakis contract, but considering the alternatives that were possible I feel like we were lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    You were just talking about signing a LF in the other thread.

    Take a gander at some of the LF's signed in the offseason.

    Cuddyer - 0.3 WAR (costs 22 million plus a draft pick)
    Hanley - -0.3 WAR (cost 88 million plus a draft pick)
    Melky - -0.8 WAR (cost 42 million plus a draft pick)

    Obviously I'm cherry picking considering there were some good value signings. I was one of those that preferred Aoki among other alternatives. I don't like the Markakis contract, but considering the alternatives that were possible I feel like we were lucky.
    In all fairness there is nothing wrong with the Markakis contract in and of itself. I thought it was a slight overpay at the time but he has outperformed that to this point. But what is a contract that we needed? We are rebuilding and was there a particular need for Nick at 4 years? Really good chance he is not playing to this level in 2017.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    You were just talking about signing a LF in the other thread.

    Take a gander at some of the LF's signed in the offseason.

    Cuddyer - 0.3 WAR (costs 22 million plus a draft pick)
    Hanley - -0.3 WAR (cost 88 million plus a draft pick)
    Melky - -0.8 WAR (cost 42 million plus a draft pick)

    Obviously I'm cherry picking considering there were some good value signings. I was one of those that preferred Aoki among other alternatives. I don't like the Markakis contract, but considering the alternatives that were possible I feel like we were lucky.
    Understood. And I'm scared of the FA market in general.

    if the Markakis deal was 2 years I'd love it. Even 2 years at 26 I'd be ok with it. But 4 years and 44.......

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    Well this thing turned around quickly since Sunday evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    Well this thing turned around quickly since Sunday evening.
    Why are you so negative?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russ2dollas View Post
    Understood. And I'm scared of the FA market in general.

    if the Markakis deal was 2 years I'd love it. Even 2 years at 26 I'd be ok with it. But 4 years and 44.......
    I didn't like the process behind the contract, but let's say he's a 2.5 WAR player at the end of this year (his projection via ZIPS).

    Markakis at 3 years 33 million (with no draft pick compensation) isn't terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    I didn't like the process behind the contract, but let's say he's a 2.5 WAR player at the end of this year (his projection via ZIPS).

    Markakis at 3 years 33 million (with no draft pick compensation) isn't terrible.
    Eh, what will the next 3 years look like? Any optimism that he will be even better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    In all fairness there is nothing wrong with the Markakis contract in and of itself. I thought it was a slight overpay at the time but he has outperformed that to this point. But what is a contract that we needed? We are rebuilding and was there a particular need for Nick at 4 years? Really good chance he is not playing to this level in 2017.
    That's fair and that criticism will hold true forever.

    But a lot of people act like his contract is destined to be a burden like Upton/Uggla. There is seriously no chance of that.

    I agree the process was bad, but Nick isn't a bad player and doesn't deserve the criticism he gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    That's fair and that criticism will hold true forever.

    But a lot of people act like his contract is destined to be a burden like Upton/Uggla. There is seriously no chance of that.

    I agree the process was bad, but Nick isn't a bad player and doesn't deserve the criticism he gets.
    That is a good point and more of a criticism of the front office handing it out and then rebuilding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Eh, what will the next 3 years look like? Any optimism that he will be even better?
    No. He should regress, but that's not a terrible risk to take either, which is my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    That is a good point and more of a criticism of the front office handing it out and then rebuilding.
    The process was baffling, but considering the current state of the team, he kinda sorta fits.

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    Just telling it like it is. The Braves aren't good. If that's negative then so be it.

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