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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Yep, that's ****ty and I condemn it.

    I missed the story where the pizza parlor got burned down, though.
    As far as I know they shut their doors... so burning wasn't necessary
    Last edited by sturg33; 06-26-2015 at 08:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    As far as I know they shut their doors... so burning was necessary
    They made something like $840k off that little stunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    They made something like $840k off that little stunt.
    Cause all the gays were looking to get PIZZA for their weddings.
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    Wilbo once threatened to kick my ass -- does that count ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Who's the username? Was it hidden?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Cause all the gays were looking to get PIZZA for their weddings.
    Large with extra sausage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    As far as I know they shut their doors... so burning wasn't necessary
    I think they opened back up. But they did get a lot of money for their publicity stunt via gofundme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heywood View Post
    I think they opened back up. But they did get a lot of money for their publicity stunt via gofundme.
    Still pretty sure that it was a paid BS, lots of shady **** goign around it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    We've had the same basic discussion involving death. Just because you personally might be an exception, doesn't mean it isn't true. There are numerous ways religion and government has profited from marriage and will continue to do so.

    And it's your right to stop signing marriage licenses, as it should be. I certainly don't hold it against you. If you're going to believe in something like religion, you should embrace it...warts and all. Good for you.

    Just think you blow it out of proportion. Anyhow... :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldfly View Post
    didn't know he was black or was the head of a black church in the south

    I'm not, but I held hands with my black brothers and sisters last night in a prayer service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julio3000 View Post
    Show me one.

    Does a firebombing count? Link

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    Bedell, polygamy is next. They open pandora's box by interpreting the word of the Constitution in doing that, they can't go after the Mormons and their practice now. If good for them it is good for all. No holds barred.

    This will be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AerchAngel View Post
    Bedell, polygamy is next. They open pandora's box by interpreting the word of the Constitution in doing that, they can't go after the Mormons and their practice now. If good for them it is good for all. No holds barred.

    This will be good.
    Consenting adults should be married to whomever they choose to be married to. Even if it's multiples, siblings, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Consenting adults should be married to whomever they choose to be married to. Even if it's multiples, siblings, etc.
    Whoa, what changed your mind, Zeet?

    Before you was totally against it. But after today, they cannot deny it and if they do, they are picking and choosing since no AMENDMENT was passed to allow it. I thought states issues licenses. Well that is none and void, you can marry whoever you want as many as you want (I think Kennedy said something about happiness and not being lonely, well some men rather have four of five women and if he does not have that, he can say he is lonely). I don't mind gay marriage, polygamy or marrying your house dog, I care about opinions in the Supreme Court usurping the state courts which do the license issuing. It would have passed by the states eventually.

    They created Pandora's Box by using interpretation for the greater good.

    I see issues with them with Search and Seizures and Right to Bear Arms, because people want it change. If you change it, do it the right way, not using opinions of your interpretation.

    But I heard they would never get an Amendment passed so this is the only way they can do it. The Civil Right Act of 1964 was an Act. I don't know if this was one. I would be fine if they did do an Act, just not an opinion, because they would do the process correctly. My only beef with this.

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    This has been my opinion for quite some time. Probably not forever, but certainly for the last 3-4 years at the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    This has been my opinion for quite some time. Probably not forever, but certainly for the last 3-4 years at the least.
    Me either, it is because change in the world today.

    People should smoke weed if they want,
    Marry who and what they want, even a harem if they consent.
    Purchase weapons to defend themselves
    Put in devices to keep guv'ment spy devices out.
    Boobytrap your house if intruders come in (stupid law saying you can't do it)
    Let every Tom Dick and Harry come across our border have many kids so you and I pay for it.
    Just basically ignore the Constitution in its meaning.....this burns me to no end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BedellBrave View Post
    I'm not, but I held hands with my black brothers and sisters last night in a prayer service.
    awesome

    but i guess that makes the chance of your church being burnt down to a much smaller chance :cheers:
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    Quote Originally Posted by AerchAngel View Post
    Just basically ignore the Constitution in its meaning.....this burns me to no end.
    you know it was created to be a document that changes, right?

    cause if you don't think that, then you are 3/5ths of a person


    to quote a guy who had a little something to do with that document:

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    Scalia gets a bad rap for his fiery dissents. The media loves to pull lines from them because they're often sensational. Close followers of the court know this isn't really fair.

    First of all, Scalia is brilliant. All 9 justices are extremely intelligent. Scalia is absolutely no exception.

    Second, when Scalia is writing the majority opinion, he's much less colorful. Scalia believes majority opinions need decorum while dissents can contain more rhetoric.

    Third, Scalia is an originalist. People who don't get him usually don't understand this. Scalia's school of thought is that the Constitution does not change over time. The divisions of power and guarantees made were agreed to by the states under a certain understanding and you can't change that. If you want to change the constitution you amend it, you don't change the meaning of the words that are there.

    So Scalia big question is "what did the section of the constitution mean when it was adopted?" Naturally this puts him at odds with the doctrine of substantive due process the court trotted out yesterday.

    One more thing about the court people don't get is that in spite of their fierce disagreement at times, these people don't usually let these disagreements affect their interpersonal relationships. Ginsburg and Scalia are best friends. There's a difference between debate and argument that some people don't get. Lawyers usually enjoy debating issues and don't take disagreement personally.

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