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    Quote Originally Posted by dak View Post
    I ask this as someone who is luke warm at best on this trade . . .

    What kind of bat (and contract) do you think Alex Wood could have gotten if traded in the offseason?
    As someone else said, either an established player or top prospect.

    Olivera is the age of an established player with the track record of a prospect. He has the negatives of both.

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    Hart got worked...and I want to hear his dirty little mouth say it.

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    What if this deal falls through and Olivera winds up being an elite hitter the next 5 years?
    thank you weso1!

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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    What if this deal falls through and Olivera winds up being an elite hitter the next 5 years?
    I'll stick with my Wood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    What if this deal falls through and Olivera winds up being an elite hitter the next 5 years?
    What if it goes through, Wood wins a Cy Young, and Peraza consistently puts up a .750+ OPS with great defense?

    Because I think mine is more likely than yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Well yeah, obviously the age matters, but if he has 3-4 good years then the Braves will make out just fine. A player's production isn't worth more at age 26 than it is at 30. The issue is where that aligns with our win curve. I don't think we can contend by next season, but it's also not a ridiculous notion either.

    I am one of the biggest Wood fans out there and I like Peraza, but the purpose of acquiring this dearth of pitching prospects was to flip them for position players. I wouldn't have made this exact trade personally, but in a vacuum it makes sense.
    I agree but i think since we included Peraza as well we should have gotten more.

    Austin Barnes and Olivera, along with a couple others would have made sense, oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    I doubt very much that the Yankees would trade Judge at all. They love him.
    They should love him. But there are very few prospects you wouldn't trade straight up for a 24 year old top of the rotation starter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heywood View Post
    I'll stick with my Wood.
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    thank you weso1!

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    Everybody knows Wood isn't good for a bad Hart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
    Wow. Are you trolling us?
    We should swoop in and acquire Gomez to piss Mets fans off.

    Wish we could use Wood as the centerpiece of an offer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    I agree but i think since we included Peraza as well we should have gotten more.

    Austin Barnes and Olivera, along with a couple others would have made sense, oh well.
    Agreed. The deal felt like it was missing a player that's for sure.

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    This trade reaks of a front office falling in love with a guy and letting it affect their better judgment. Hart and Co love Olivera so much they've let it distort reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weso1 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    There is no way in hell yanks turn down Judge for Wood. Or really any team with a non top 5 type hitting prospect that is looking for pitching.
    I tend to agree with you, though I'm probably also not as high on Judge as some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dak View Post
    I ask this as someone who is luke warm at best on this trade . . .

    What kind of bat (and contract) do you think Alex Wood could have gotten if traded in the offseason?
    Likely less than now because there will be a large number of pitchers available just for money (not talent going the other way) who are as good or better. The time to deal him IS now most likely but getting a 30yo question mark with no ML experience and a iffy medical history is not what I was thinking. Then throwing in Peraza on top of that.....

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    I think this trade illustrates the strategic challenges involved in trying to convert a stockpile of pitching into hitters. Acquiring proven low risk hitting talent is going to be prohibitively costly in the current era. So you will have to take risks on guys like Olivera. There are certain things to like about Olivera. The scouting reports indicate he is a polished complete hitter. Certainly not a hacker.

    But what we are seeing is that the approach the Cubs have taken to rebuilding (stockpiling young hitting talent) is much better strategically in the current era than the one we have been taking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    There is no way in hell yanks turn down Judge for Wood. Or really any team with a non top 5 type hitting prospect that is looking for pitching.
    Yankees wouldnt deal Judge or Severino for Hamels, they would turn that down..

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    Somebody please wake me, I'm having a terrible dream.

    This can't be real, can it? Can it?

    I've liked pretty much everything that Hart and Co have done upto this point, but this one scares the living hell out of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50PoundHead View Post
    I think you're pretty low on your estimate of Wood's salaries moving forward. If he's not tied up for his arbitration years, I could see him at $40 MM for the timeline you've laid out provided his performance remains steady.
    Very well could be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nsacpi View Post
    I think this trade illustrates the strategic challenges involved in trying to convert a stockpile of pitching into hitters. Acquiring proven low risk hitting talent is going to be prohibitively costly in the current era. So you will have to take risks on guys like Olivera. There are certain things to like about Olivera. The scouting reports indicate he is a polished complete hitter. Certainly not a hacker.

    But what we are seeing is that the approach the Cubs have taken to rebuilding (stockpiling young hitting talent) is much better strategically in the current era than the one we have been taking.
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