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Thread: 8/2/2015: SUNDAY BRAVES THREAD ... Phillies seek 4-game sweep on endless road trip

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heywood View Post
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    You might be onto something. I must be bringing the bad mojo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Of course this has happened. Our best hitter was out for more than a m9nth and we sold off two of our bigger contributors to offense. Not to mention we lost our closer who was having an exceptional season. This idea that the posters who said we would suck this year we're right is asinine. Sure, we lacked impact full depth as a result of the trades but the team was a 500 team when healthy and prior to trades.
    You are delusional.

    I really would love to go back to some of those april game threads with all the victory laps... holy smokes.

    This team is awful and played well above their herds for the first 2 months of the season.

    Your trying to say that us trading Kelly and Uribe (who we didn't even get til May), made the difference in our team being decent and terrible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    You are delusional.

    I really would love to go back to some of those april game threads with all the victory laps... holy smokes.

    This team is awful and played well above their herds for the first 2 months of the season.

    Your trying to say that us trading Kelly and Uribe (who we didn't even get til May), made the difference in our team being decent and terrible?
    And Freeman being out for a month and our closer who was having a really good season getting hurt.

    Yes, those factors led us from being the a decent team (which we were) to the awful team that we are today.

    Not sure how that can be denied.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    And Freeman being out for a month and our closer who was having a really good season getting hurt.

    Yes, those factors led us from being the a decent team (which we were) to the awful team that we are today.

    Not sure how that can be denied.
    Freeman being out hurt. And losing Grili really didnt' have much of an impact. JJ was still good and losing our closer didn't cause us to stop scoring runs.

    You still fail to acknowledge that the only reason we were 'good' was because of unexpected starts to the season from several hitters. And most of them have regressed to the mean and we are garbage again.

    You built up the fact that making contact would score more runs. Well guess what? It hasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Freeman being out hurt. And losing Grili really didnt' have much of an impact. JJ was still good and losing our closer didn't cause us to stop scoring runs.

    You still fail to acknowledge that the only reason we were 'good' was because of unexpected starts to the season from several hitters. And most of them have regressed to the mean and we are garbage again.

    You built up the fact that making contact would score more runs. Well guess what? It hasn't.
    Contact was scoring plenty of runs when our best hitter was in the lineup. The aggregate season numbers don't account for that at all.

    How was Grilli not a big loss? It just weakened our bullpen tremendously. The point I was responded to wasn't just about the offense. It was about the team as a whole. When Grilli was healthy and Viz came up our pen was looking damn good. I still believe we would have been around 500 all year if Grilli/Freeman were healthy and the trades weren't made. Now, the way the team is going is probably better for the future but I would have rather won more games.
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    The first few weeks of the season, we had a really, really good average with RISP. That was with Freeman's poor start, too. AJ was playing like a damn all star, as was Peterson. We stopped scoring; that's why we're losing more. It should have been no mystery we didn't have the offense to last and actually compete. Combine that with a just OK rotation and awful bullpen sans Grilli and JJ, and well, there ya go.

    Oh, and the same nitwit who can't manage in a close game.

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    Whether or not it would have lasted is a guess. Yes, the numbers would indicate that more than likely it would have regressed but the diminished scoring output directly coincided with Freeman going down. And now to mock the offense is silly since we traded two average hitters at worst for two awful hitters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Contact was scoring plenty of runs when our best hitter was in the lineup. The aggregate season numbers don't account for that at all.

    How was Grilli not a big loss? It just weakened our bullpen tremendously. The point I was responded to wasn't just about the offense. It was about the team as a whole. When Grilli was healthy and Viz came up our pen was looking damn good. I still believe we would have been around 500 all year if Grilli/Freeman were healthy and the trades weren't made. Now, the way the team is going is probably better for the future but I would have rather won more games.
    I don't know if you have noticed this or not but scoring runs has been the teams biggest issue for awhile now. Grili did not help that problem one bit.

    And why isn't contact working after Freeman went out? The Braves still ahve the lowest K% in the league. If all you need to do is put the ball in play then we should have kept on scoring regardless. Unless Freeman made other players magically get hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    I don't know if you have noticed this or not but scoring runs has been the teams biggest issue for awhile now. Grili did not help that problem one bit.

    And why isn't contact working after Freeman went out? The Braves still ahve the lowest K% in the league. If all you need to do is put the ball in play then we should have kept on scoring regardless. Unless Freeman made other players magically get hits.
    Replacing Freeman, KJ, and Uribe with Gomes/Perez, CJ and Garcia is a pretty bad downgrade but continue to stay bitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Replacing Freeman, KJ, and Uribe with Gomes/Perez, CJ and Garcia is a pretty bad downgrade but continue to stay bitter.
    Braves are still putting the ball in the play. Why aren't we scoring more runs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Braves are still putting the ball in the play. Why aren't we scoring more runs?
    This is a straw man. THe premise was always having good hitters that put the ball in play. Not a lineup littered with Quad A guys.
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    What's this "W" listed next to the team's name on the boxscore? Is it bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    What's this "W" listed next to the team's name on the boxscore? Is it bad?
    Some sort of typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    What's this "W" listed next to the team's name on the boxscore? Is it bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    What's this "W" listed next to the team's name on the boxscore? Is it bad?
    I think it's some dig toward Wren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpx7 View Post
    What's this "W" listed next to the team's name on the boxscore? Is it bad?
    Yes. It means TJ surgery is a high likelihood...

    Wait. Is it an inverted W? No?

    No idea, then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalyn View Post
    I think it's some dig toward Wren.

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    I knew it. W's are bad.

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