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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Lamar will never come close to winning a Super Bowl.
    Not with these garbage ass receivers

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    Dude Lamar is so overrated it isn’t even funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by zbhargrove View Post
    Dude Lamar is so overrated it isn’t even funny
    With how people hate on him, he's underrated. It's like the Bryce Harper before. You get overrated by the media, then everyone turns on him. THen you slowly become underrated.

    Lamar is a top 10 QB who's treated like he's an ass passer.
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    Harper > Trout

    Always believed it.
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    Can you imagine having tickets to see the BRoncos play the Jets and the score be 13-8 lol.
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    It's funny how people are praising Ridder's performance and saying it's his best game as a pro. It was and he still wasn't amazing. The Falcons still only scored 21 points and Ridder only threw for one TD in spite of throwing it 37 times.

    The Texans defense is pretty banged up and was selling out against the run. In spite of that the longest pass on the day for Ridder was 33 yards.

    Basically, the Falcons gave Ridder a ton of short, high percentage throws, mixed in the occasional intermediate, and almost never asked him to throw deep. They know that down field Ridder could try to hit the ground and miss.

    The Falcons were trying hard to mask Ridder's weaknesses (processing, accuracy, decision making) and playing up his strengths. Which is why he had a bunch of completions and the Falcons still punted a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    It's funny how people are praising Ridder's performance and saying it's his best game as a pro. It was and he still wasn't amazing. The Falcons still only scored 21 points and Ridder only threw for one TD in spite of throwing it 37 times.

    The Texans defense is pretty banged up and was selling out against the run. In spite of that the longest pass on the day for Ridder was 33 yards.

    Basically, the Falcons gave Ridder a ton of short, high percentage throws, mixed in the occasional intermediate, and almost never asked him to throw deep. They know that down field Ridder could try to hit the ground and miss.

    The Falcons were trying hard to mask Ridder's weaknesses (processing, accuracy, decision making) and playing up his strengths. Which is why he had a bunch of completions and the Falcons still punted a lot.
    Is it Ridder’s fault that Bijan and Smith fumbled?

    Because that’s why they only scored 21 points.

    I’ll edit this comment from you to clarify your intent “Ridder only threw for one touchdown and ran for one touchdown”.

    Ridder is unremarkable and I will not miss him the second he’s benched, but credit where credit is due. He played great today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    It's funny how people are praising Ridder's performance and saying it's his best game as a pro. It was and he still wasn't amazing. The Falcons still only scored 21 points and Ridder only threw for one TD in spite of throwing it 37 times.

    The Texans defense is pretty banged up and was selling out against the run. In spite of that the longest pass on the day for Ridder was 33 yards.

    Basically, the Falcons gave Ridder a ton of short, high percentage throws, mixed in the occasional intermediate, and almost never asked him to throw deep. They know that down field Ridder could try to hit the ground and miss.

    The Falcons were trying hard to mask Ridder's weaknesses (processing, accuracy, decision making) and playing up his strengths. Which is why he had a bunch of completions and the Falcons still punted a lot.
    Falcons finding a way to win with Ridder is going to be key. I don't think it's bad that he's not making big throws if it's not part of his game. I wish we had a better QB but I'd rather we learn to cook with the ingredients we have than not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Falcons finding a way to win with Ridder is going to be key. I don't think it's bad that he's not making big throws if it's not part of his game. I wish we had a better QB but I'd rather we learn to cook with the ingredients we have than not.
    Agreed. We're gonna have to find a way to win using the run game and short passes. There's no reason to throw deep often with Ridder.

    My annoyance is the Falcons betting on Ridder when he doesn't fit their run heavy, play action offense. But I guess it's a sunk cost now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Is it Ridder’s fault that Bijan and Smith fumbled?

    Because that’s why they only scored 21 points.

    I’ll edit this comment from you to clarify your intent “Ridder only threw for one touchdown and ran for one touchdown”.

    Ridder is unremarkable and I will not miss him the second he’s benched, but credit where credit is due. He played great today.
    This all day long

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    Can you imagine trading everything Carolina did for Bryce, while Houston chilled and got Stroud who looks just so much more of an NFL QB.
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    Falcons have a legit defense this year. That’s nice
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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Is it Ridder’s fault that Bijan and Smith fumbled?

    Because that’s why they only scored 21 points.

    I’ll edit this comment from you to clarify your intent “Ridder only threw for one touchdown and ran for one touchdown”.

    Ridder is unremarkable and I will not miss him the second he’s benched, but credit where credit is due. He played great today.
    He absolutely played as well as he is capable. He was good. He wasn't amazing. He wasn't out there throwing the ball all over the field and making tons of huge plays. He managed the game, made a ton of high percentage throws that was obviously the game plan, and didn't make any game breaking mistakes.

    Ridder isnt as bad as he was in London. But he's not as good as his line today seems. He's an extremely limited passer. That's what worries me. We can't run a full playbook with Ridder with how bad he is making reads and how inaccurate he is down the field.

    It annoys me that we'll probably win too many games to get a top QB in the draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Can you imagine trading everything Carolina did for Bryce, while Houston chilled and got Stroud who looks just so much more of an NFL QB.
    That trade looks like it's gonna end up being Caleb Williams, Jalen Carter, DJ Moore plus two other 2nd round picks for the shortest QB of all time

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker42 View Post
    He absolutely played as well as he is capable. He was good. He wasn't amazing. He wasn't out there throwing the ball all over the field and making tons of huge plays. He managed the game, made a ton of high percentage throws that was obviously the game plan, and didn't make any game breaking mistakes.

    Ridder isnt as bad as he was in London. But he's not as good as his line today seems. He's an extremely limited passer. That's what worries me. We can't run a full playbook with Ridder with how bad he is making reads and how inaccurate he is down the field.

    It annoys me that we'll probably win too many games to get a top QB in the draft.
    I agree with this. Falcons seemed destined to be 8-9 which… ugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    That trade looks like it's gonna end up being Caleb Williams, Jalen Carter, DJ Moore plus two other 2nd round picks for the shortest QB of all time
    If that winds up happening, it will be the worst trade in the history of the NFL. Especially as Jalen Carter is already dominating in the NFL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    That trade looks like it's gonna end up being Caleb Williams, Jalen Carter, DJ Moore plus two other 2nd round picks for the shortest QB of all time
    How deep are you into the Hutchinson cult?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    How deep are you into the Hutchinson cult?
    Haha I didn't know there was a cult?

    Dude looks like a stud though... a notch below Bosa/Parsons though

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    Quote Originally Posted by sturg33 View Post
    Haha I didn't know there was a cult?

    Dude looks like a stud though... a notch below Bosa/Parsons though
    Interestingly, when the lions decided to trade Stafford, they had an offer from the panthers for Bridgewater and #8 overall... the consensus was that we'd have taken Parson if Sewell wasn't there... so that would have left a draft haul of Sewell and Parsons.

    Instead the lions took the multiple future firsts from the Rams, plus Goff. A lot of commentators attribute our current success was jumpstarted from all that draft capital.

    But in reality, we haven't realized any benefits from that draft capital. The first 1st was used to trade up for Jameson Williams, who has done nothing and looks like a bust to me.

    The 2nd 1st was used to draft Jamyr Gibbs, who also has done nothing.

    The true haul from that trade turned out to be Goff, who has been a top 5 QB since the middle of last season.

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