REAL FOOTBALL Thread

[thethe]

Did Denver miss their best shot at a title? Decker is likely to leave, Woodyard and the other LB are testing FA and Baily is likely done with them too. Knowshon going to test FA as well....

Having Miller there for the full year would be big, but I feel like they might have missed their best shot for a ring.

Football is weird in that players drafted can have a HUGE impact immediately. If you pick the right guys your window never closes as long as you have the QB.

[zitothebrave]

Did Denver miss their best shot at a title? Decker is likely to leave, Woodyard and the other LB are testing FA and Baily is likely done with them too. Knowshon going to test FA as well....

Having Miller there for the full year would be big, but I feel like they might have missed their best shot for a ring.

When you have Peyton Manning you always have a great shot at a title.

[Heyward]

Did Denver miss their best shot at a title? Decker is likely to leave, Woodyard and the other LB are testing FA and Baily is likely done with them too. Knowshon going to test FA as well....

Having Miller there for the full year would be big, but I feel like they might have missed their best shot for a ring.

Meh, yes and no.

We were missing 6-8 key players who were on IR.

But from a talent standpoint, probably.

Depends who they replace some of those guys with.

[Tapate50]

Updating a previous item, CBS' Jason La Canfora says Colin Kaepernick won't settle for anything less than $20M per season annually in a new contract.

[thethe]

Updating a previous item, CBS' Jason La Canfora says Colin Kaepernick won't settle for anything less than $20M per season annually in a new contract.

I don't know where any of these people are getting this. We will have to see. I hope Kaep doesn't hold the 49ers feet to the fire but I thought he would and have been consistent with that.

[NinersSBChamps]

I don't know where any of these people are getting this. We will have to see. I hope Kaep doesn't hold the 49ers feet to the fire but I thought he would and have been consistent with that.

Honestly the media is out for the 49ers right now. Harbaugh story and now Kaepernick wanting x amount of dollars a year. Harbaugh did bring in Jimmy Garoppolo for a workout the other day. If the 49ers do use a second round pick on a quarterback you can kiss Colin goodbye.

[zitothebrave]

I don't know where any of these people are getting this. We will have to see. I hope Kaep doesn't hold the 49ers feet to the fire but I thought he would and have been consistent with that.

JMO his annual will depend if he extends this season or next.

I touched on it earilier in this thread, Kaepernick is super cheap now (1.6M) if he signs now and ups his cap number this year he signs for cheaper. As I said before Kaepernick will get paid, signing him earlier makes you worse in 2014 but better long term. Same thing the Falcons did with Ryan.

[NinersSBChamps]

Kaepernick isn't worth an extension right now. He has proved his talent over a short period of time. And he is the reason the 49ers don't have a 6th ring. Well at least this past season.

Let him play out this season and if the 49ers don't win it all, let him walk.

[zitothebrave]

Kaepernick isn't worth an extension right now. He has proved his talent over a short period of time. And he is the reason the 49ers don't have a 6th ring. Well at least this past season.

Let him play out this season and if the 49ers don't win it all, let him walk.

Cause above average NFL QBs grow on trees.

[NinersSBChamps]

Cause above average NFL QBs grow on trees.

Well if he can't get a ring with the talented 49ers team than he won't ever get a ring. No reason to give him 18 million dollars a season if he isn't gonna win.

[Tapate50]

Honestly the media is out for the 49ers right now. Harbaugh story and now Kaepernick wanting x amount of dollars a year. Harbaugh did bring in Jimmy Garoppolo for a workout the other day. If the 49ers do use a second round pick on a quarterback you can kiss Colin goodbye.

Per same report.... He feels like he is in the top 5 QBs in the league and wants to be paid like it.

[Heyward]

Kaepernick isn't worth an extension right now. He has proved his talent over a short period of time. And he is the reason the 49ers don't have a 6th ring. Well at least this past season.

Let him play out this season and if the 49ers don't win it all, let him walk.

[Heyward]

Well if he can't get a ring with the talented 49ers team than he won't ever get a ring. No reason to give him 18 million dollars a season if he isn't gonna win.

Because Kap plays all 53 spots?

Team game.

They arent gonna let Kap walk though, i dont think.

They'll at worst tag him the next 2 years.

[NinersSBChamps]

Per same report.... He feels like he is in the top 5 QBs in the league and wants to be paid like it.

Top 5 is laughable. I don't even think thethe would call him top 10.

[zitothebrave]

Top 5 is laughable. I don't even think thethe would call him top 10.

He's in the bottom of the top 10.

For me top 10 in kinda order

Peyton
Rodgers
Brady
Brees
Ryan
Rivers
Romo

After that is Wilson, Kaepernick, Rapelisberger, Luck, Stafford and assuming the train doesn't completely come off the tracks Foles. Any of them can jump higher as well.

[Tapate50]

He's in the bottom of the top 10.

For me top 10 in kinda order

Peyton
Rodgers
Brady
Brees
Ryan
Rivers
Romo

After that is Wilson, Kaepernick, Rapelisberger, Luck, Stafford and assuming the train doesn't completely come off the tracks Foles. Any of them can jump higher as well.

I'd have to put Luck up there based on nothing but my impressions from watching them.

[Heyward]

I'd have to put Luck up there based on nothing but my impressions from watching them.

Same here...

[NinersSBChamps]

Brady, Roethlisberger, Luck, Peyton, Rivers, Romo, Rodgers, Brees, Ryan, and Cam are all better.

Smith, Kaepernick, Stafford, Cutler, and Wilson are next tier.

[zitothebrave]

I'd have to put Luck up there based on nothing but my impressions from watching them.

Luck is tough for me. Statistically he's not close to any of those guys. But in terms of real ability he's the most talented QB in the NFL (smart, strong arm, accurate arm, mobile) that you have to wonder if a big reason for his struggles compared to everyone else on the list is mainly because of weapons. Also he just wins. In his 2 years in the NFL he has 11 game winning drives and 8 4th quarter comebacks. For a reference point in the 6 seasons Joe Flacco has played in the NFL (never posting a losing record mind you) he had 19 game winning drives and 12 4th quarter comebacks. He's clutch. You have to love someone who does it. I know that's a reason why I love Ryan.

[zitothebrave]

Brady, Roethlisberger, Luck, Peyton, Rivers, Romo, Rodgers, Brees, Ryan, and Cam are all better.

Smith, Kaepernick, Stafford, Cutler, and Wilson are next tier.

Rapelisberger has been slipping, probably because he's a QB who takes a lot of big hits (holds the ball forever) Still very good mind you but saying he's for sure better I think is wrong.

$cam is a much better fantasy QB, but not a better QB. Luck has worse QB stats. But there is something about him.