REAL FOOTBALL Thread

[Carp]

I'm not confident Bush gives them RB stability.

Me either. Bush is not a between the tackles back. I don't know what thethe expects Bush to change in the Lions offense. He's a nice little player, but he's not a top back.

[Tapate50]

Me either. Bush is not a between the tackles back. I don't know what thethe expects Bush to change in the Lions offense. He's a nice little player, but he's not a top back.

Well, not in the traditional sense. In that offense the reads will go something like this: Calvin, Calvin , Calvin again, and then dump it to Bush.

He could catch close to 80 balls, and then add another 850 yards rushing easily. That is a very nice player.

[Heyward]

Pats release Fells and Ballard.

Surprising given Gronks health issues they only go with three TE's, unless they add another who gets cut.

[Carp]

Well, not in the traditional sense. In that offense the reads will go something like this: Calvin, Calvin , Calvin again, and then dump it to Bush.

He could catch close to 80 balls, and then add another 850 yards rushing easily. That is a very nice player.

I kinda doubt Bush gets over 800 yards rushing. Also doubt he plays more than 13 games. Either way, he isn't getting 1800 total yards, unless he's returning punts and you're adding that to his total

[Tapate50]

I kinda doubt Bush gets over 800 yards rushing. Also doubt he plays more than 13 games. Either way, he isn't getting 1800 total yards, unless he's returning punts and you're adding that to his total

Well, he has done it easily the last two years with a 1000 yard avg. with 70 catches at 7-8 a catch avg, he is right there. But regardless, an 1800 total yard from scrimmage number is huge. Elite, and no one is saying that of Bush. 1500 would still be a great year.

[yeezus]

Well, he has done it easily the last two years with a 1000 yard avg. with 70 catches at 7-8 a catch avg, he is right there. But regardless, an 1800 total yard from scrimmage number is huge. Elite, and no one is saying that of Bush. 1500 would still be a great year.

He's still never hit 1500 yards. And I don't think he's a top back type. He could have 700 or less yards rushing just as easily as he could 1000+.

[Carp]

He's still never hit 1500 yards. And I don't think he's a top back type. He could have 700 or less yards rushing just as easily as he could 1000+.

I agree, not to mention he's brittle. Again, if he has over 1200 all purpose yards I'd be surprised.

[zitothebrave]

I agree, not to mention he's brittle. Again, if he has over 1200 all purpose yards I'd be surprised.

He should be able to eclipse that mark if the Lions are smart. But I never really got the myth of Bush as an elite receiver. He hasn't eclipsed 400 yards in the past 4 seasons. Without Brees he's been even worse.

[Heyward]

Tebow cut.

Not a huge surprise though.

[zitothebrave]

Tebow cut.

Not a huge surprise though.

ZOMG!!

[thethe]

I wonder how structurally sound RG3's knee is. Obviously Andrews doesn't think they should be running the read option anymore. RG3 needs to show he can be a pocket passer.

[zitothebrave]

His knee is at risk in the pocket if he holds the ball too long.

[thethe]

Playoff Picks:

AFC:
1. Broncos (13-3)
2. Houston (11-5)
3. Patriots (11-5)
4. Bengals (10-6)
5. Ravens (9-7)
6. Indianapolis (9-7)

NFC:
1. San Francisco (11-5)
2. Green Bay (11-5)
3. Falcons (10-6)
4. Cowboys (10-6)
5. Seahawks (10-6)
6. Lions (10-6)

[NinersSBChamps]

Playoff Picks:


AFC:
1. Broncos (13-3)
2. Houston (11-5)
3. Patriots (11-5)
4. Bengals (10-6)
5. Ravens (9-7)
6. Indianapolis (9-7)

NFC:
1. San Francisco (11-5)
2. Green Bay (11-5)
3. Falcons (10-6)
4. Cowboys (10-6)
5. Seahawks (10-6)
6. Lions (10-6)

Can't really argue with that. I think someone else gets in instead of Detroit though.

Here is what I got.

AFC:
Houston 13-3
Denver: 12-4
New England 11-5
Cincinnati 10-6
Indianapolis 9-7
Baltimore 9-7

NFC:
Seattle 13-3
Atlanta 12-4
Green Bay 11-5
Dallas Cowboys 9-7
San Francisco 10-6
New Orleans 9-7

[thethe]

The NFC is so deep I don't see teams winning 13 and 12 games.

[Heyward]

Well, Seattle is pretty much unbeatable at home.

Just need 5 road wins to get 13 wins.

Don't see Atl with 12, tough schedule and division. Wanna say they get the North, Niners and Skins as common opponents. Getting the Pats at home possibly without Gronk is a break however.

[NinersSBChamps]

I think Atlanta will be fine. A little better defense at least on paper I believe. I think their division is pretty bad with the exception of them and New Orleans. Granted they are division opponents, but 5-1 in the NFC South for Atlanta and New Orleans is plenty doable.

[thethe]

I think Atlanta will be fine. A little better defense at least on paper I believe. I think their division is pretty bad with the exception of them and New Orleans. Granted they are division opponents, but 5-1 in the NFC South for Atlanta and New Orleans is plenty doable.

I don't see the South as being a bad division. NO defense is horrid but they are going to have the best offense in football. Panthers are not a pushover and if Cam can find a way to continue what he did in the second half they are going to win 7-8 games. Watch out for the Bucs if Revis is healthy. They have a whole lot of talent.

[Heyward]

Carolina nearly swept them last year and they struggled with Tampa who didn't have Revis which changes how you gameplan.

I think 4-2 or maybe even 3-3 is likely over 5-1.

And 10-11 wins over 12 wins.

[zitothebrave]

I'll take my stab

AFC

Broncos 13-3 (only a handful of tough games)
Pats 12-4
Texans 10-6
Bengals 9-7
Chiefs 10-6
Colts 9-7

Though admitting aside from Houston, NE, and Broncos it's tough to pick the AFC since the 4-8 teams are basically all the same. I could see any 3 of Baltimore, Cincy, Chiefs (if Smith is legit), Colts, and maybe the Phins in contention.

NFC is more or less wide open but I'll go

Falcons 12-4 (MATTY ICE FTW)
Niners 12-4
Packers 11-5
Giants 10-6
Seachickens 11-5
Bears 10-6

Of course the Skins, Cowboys, Lions, Vikings, Saints, Panthers, and maybe depending on QB play one of the Rams or Cardinals.