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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Bills are going to be a terror to play next year. They will probably run the ball as much as any team in the league and have a BRUISING defense.
    They have a horrible offensive line. It's an okay strategy if that wasn't such a big issue.

    Also, poor Sammy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRule View Post
    Figured Rex would want a veteran, game manager type.
    Hoyer is better IMO than Moore and Cassell.

    He played with hot garbage in Cle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Bills are going to be a terror to play next year. They will probably run the ball as much as any team in the league and have a BRUISING defense.
    well....maybe.

    Not really a fan at this point. They still have EJ Manuel and Matt Cassel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Hoyer is better IMO than Moore and Cassell.

    He played with hot garbage in Cle.
    Eh, Hoyer is so very blah. I think at his best, he's probably as good as Cassel, I don't really see him being much better than that. However, his floor was pretty freaking horrible last year. Sure Cleveland didn't have a lot on O but he was worse with Gordon and Cameron than he was without them. His throws and everything were just trash the last few months. Plus Hoyer is going to require a 3-4 year deal probably, Rex is just looking for a stopgap for a year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Bills are going to be a terror to play next year. They will probably run the ball as much as any team in the league and have a BRUISING defense.
    Too bad the have the worst run blocking offensive line in the NFL and no QB
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    Quote Originally Posted by BRule View Post
    Eh, Hoyer is so very blah. I think at his best, he's probably as good as Cassel, I don't really see him being much better than that. However, his floor was pretty freaking horrible last year. Sure Cleveland didn't have a lot on O but he was worse with Gordon and Cameron than he was without them. His throws and everything were just trash the last few months. Plus Hoyer is going to require a 3-4 year deal probably, Rex is just looking for a stopgap for a year.
    If Hoyer is blah, then what the hell is Cassel?

    Gordon was a huge liability when he came back. Wrong routes, missed assignments, etc...that can hang a guy with limited tools out to dry. The Falcons game was a pretty good indicator of it...and other than Gordon, he had nada.

    It isn't really important...just splitting hairs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    If Hoyer is blah, then what the hell is Cassel?

    Gordon was a huge liability when he came back. Wrong routes, missed assignments, etc...that can hang a guy with limited tools out to dry. The Falcons game was a pretty good indicator of it...and other than Gordon, he had nada.

    It isn't really important...just splitting hairs.
    Both are blah, just saying Rex probably favors the vet.
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    Saints still have 24 million to cut from the budget before next week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Saints still have 24 million to cut from the budget before next week.
    Trying to trade Lofton now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Trying to trade Lofton now.
    Poor fit for todays pass oriented offenses imo. He was always a thumper, but not very fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    Poor fit for todays pass oriented offenses imo. He was always a thumper, but not very fast.
    Still a nice asset to have. Seemingly our ability to stop the run went away when we lost Lofton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    Still a nice asset to have. Seemingly our ability to stop the run went away when we lost Lofton.
    And Grady Jackson!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tapate50 View Post
    And Grady Jackson!
    Good old fat Grady.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Trying to trade Lofton now.
    Eh, they still have 5 mil in dead money if he's traded or cut, but an extra pick isnt bad there.

    Only save 4ish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Eh, they still have 5 mil in dead money if he's traded or cut, but an extra pick isnt bad there.

    Only save 4ish
    zthey'll get creative but they're gonna lost some big players. They need a strong draft or Brees to be MVP to be competitive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    If only McCoy was their best player.............
    And who exactly is their best player then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thethe View Post
    Bills are going to be a terror to play next year. They will probably run the ball as much as any team in the league and have a BRUISING defense.
    As much as I like McCoy, I see him making a rough transition to the type of offense a Rex Ryan team normally operates. Typically, Ryan rb's are bruiser types that Ryan uses as a workhorse. That isn't Shady's style of play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    And who exactly is their best player then?
    Peters, Mathis, Kelce, Maclin, or Cox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Peters, Mathis, Kelce, Maclin, or Cox.
    McCoy doesn't have many years left in the tank, but you're talking about a guy who just in 2013 was the best running back in the NFL. And you're listing a center above him? I will admit last year Maclin was better than McCoy, but I don't think that's gonna be a long term thing. Maclinis very well likely to be hurt again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zitothebrave View Post
    McCoy doesn't have many years left in the tank, but you're talking about a guy who just in 2013 was the best running back in the NFL. And you're listing a center above him? I will admit last year Maclin was better than McCoy, but I don't think that's gonna be a long term thing. Maclinis very well likely to be hurt again.
    What about 2012 or 2014?

    Also, McCoy benefits because the Eagles have the best run blocking offensive line in the NFL.
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