I don't think that stat alone is all you need to make a closed-case judgement.Originally Posted by chop2chip
I don't think that stat alone is all you need to make a closed-case judgement.
PFF put out a draft board for Atlanta: Corey Coleman, Leonard Floyd, or Cody Whitehair in the 1st. Christian Westerman (who might be had in the 3rd?), Adolphus Washington, Su'a Cravens in the 2nd. Nick VanHoose (CB), Darius Latham DT (IU), and Kyler Fackrell OLB\DE from BYU in the 3rd.
I stay kinda plugged in on the draft but some of those are relatively unknown to me. Would almost rather get Caroo later, and focus the first two picks on Defense.
Ivermectin Man
Assuming the Skins get Norman, I like the PFF draft board as well:
Karl Joseph
Joe Thuney
Steven Daniels, Tyler Boyd, or Jack Allen
Skins are in a position where they could and probably should trade back. If so, it's possible they could get 4 out of the first 3 rounds.
"Yes, I did think Aldrich was good UNTIL I SAW HIM PLAY. "- thethe
Because basically every other stat shows otherwise.
Joseph is a monster. Smaller guy, lays the wood. He single handedly beat us last year before going down. I love him. Would it be a stretch in the first? Yeah, probably but he goes there easily if he isn't injured.
I don't think Tyler Boyd makes the 3rd at all.
Crazy how Norman hitting the market is going to change things. Getting a player JUST entering his prime hitting FA with limited suitors? YES PLEASE.
Ivermectin Man
Injuries are my only concern with Joseph. A trade back and draft of him in the early second would be great.
Yeah, Boyd probably gone. Signing Norman would eliminate our need to draft a corner and would make our secondary pretty damn good. especially if they can keep Culliver.
I'd love to have 4 picks in the first 3 rounds and come out with Joseph, a DL or 2, and a WR.
"Yes, I did think Aldrich was good UNTIL I SAW HIM PLAY. "- thethe
Of course, but when one doesn't fit your argument, or in this case favor your favorite team's quarterback, you can't just dismiss it entirely. Maybe understanding what the stat doesn't capture and then making a rational argument, but what Carp did was funny.
Us too, and similar need as well adding in LB instead of 2 DL
Ivermectin Man
The difference between those stats and this one is that this one adjusts for quality of opponent. It's one thing to have the 16th best QBR. It's another thing entirely to have the 16th best QBR in the AFC South. Same holds for Matt Ryan (my team's QB). QBR had him as the 15th best quarterback last year, but being an average quarterback in the NFC South isn't the same as being an average quarterback in the AFC West.
But I'm sure you didn't know that's what the purpose of that stat was, only that you didn't like the conclusion it draws. Hence, lol
zitothebrave (04-23-2016)
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Norman was slightly overpaid, but if you think hes a legit #1, thats the market for a true #1 CB.
I would have to think they cut Culliver/Roberts to fit him in but depends on his cap number for year one.
They probably have to now.
Or could move back and get a Lawson type and more picks.
The guaranteed money is the crazy part. How many "top" corners have been signed and not done much? Brandon Carr immediately comes to mind. Sort of similar to Norman he went from a good CB to a great one and then didn't revert.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Nnamdi as well.
Cowboys draft board from PFF:
Round 1:
Joey Bosa (DE/Ohio State)
Jalen Ramsey (DB/Florida State)
Ezekiel Elliott (RB/Ohio State)
Round 2:
Maliek Collins (DT/Penn State)
Paxton Lynch (QB/Memphis)
Leonte Carroo (WR/Rutgers)
Round 3:
Joshua Perry (OLB/Ohio State)
Devonte Booker (RB/Utah)
Kalan Reed (CB/Southern Mississippi)
Chopping With The Braves And Rolling With The Tide
Both scenarios are very possible. I they stick at #4, Bosa or Buckner are likely going to be the selection. However, one scenario I thought of recently is if the Chargers pass on Ramsey, could the Titans use at least a couple of the extra picks they got in the Rams trade and make a deal with Dallas for Ramsey?
Chopping With The Braves And Rolling With The Tide
When Jenkins, who isn't very good gets 30 million guarenteed then you know you have to pay to have a corner. Not suprised by the 36 million gtd, I actually thought it would be in the 40s. This contract is similar to the one Revis caught and less when considering inflation.
Its still a ton to pay, but the contract is essentially 3 years which pays him for age 28, 29, and 30 seasons so right in prime. We play the same scheme that he excelled in with Carolina. We went from a possible weakness at corner to a huge strength with Breeland, Norman, and probably Culliver (to go with Dunbar and Blackmon). We are essentially adding Galette, Norman, Culliver, and Bruton to a defense that played fairly well last year. (plus I bet we go DL heavy in the draft as the draft is stacked with defensive lineman) I would also like Joseph if we trade back and he slips to the 2nd round.
Scot M loves to pay for corners and pass rushers so this fits right in with his style. Hopefully it works out, Norman seems to be a nasty competitor.
All they have to cut to afford Norman is Roberts and Riley.
Edit, I read the contract is 2 years 36.5 million with options in the last 3 years. Thats not bad, actually.
Last edited by gilesfan; 04-23-2016 at 01:54 PM.
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cajunrevenge (06-07-2016)
Anyone watch the All or Nothing series with the Cardinals on Amazon? I thought it might have moved a little too quickly, but it was still fascinating to see someone follow an NFL team for an entire season. Pretty solid overall.
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