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    Quote Originally Posted by CyYoung31 View Post
    Sucks Fisher got fired. Really wanted the 'ole ball coach to get the Titans that top 3 pick. May not matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
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    Meant to say the 'ole 'stache.

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    He becoming the premier social justice warrior in all of sports is as surprising as DJT as the president elect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    He becoming the premier social justice warrior in all of sports is as surprising as DJT as the president elect.
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    First half Kap is a top 10 QB.

    Second half Kap shouldn't even be in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    If I'm playing the Cowboys, I'm terrified of Romo with that offense. I don't care about anything else except that Romo is clearly the superior QB right now. If I was them, I would get him in there now to try to get rhythm for the playoffs. The only thing Dak did was complete a pass to Williams when no one was withing 30 yards.
    He's clearly the superior QB based on what? It's funny to see talk about Romo 'getting an opportunity' when he's been the QB there for a decade. I realize that this offense is set up pretty well right now, but it's not as though Romo's teams were hurting for talent on offense.

    The team is playing extremely well behind Dak, and their chemistry is off the charts. You may believe that would remain the same while QB play improved with Romo, but no one knows that for sure, and it would be pretty dumb to mess with it at this point. Dak does what that offense needs the QB to do - make good, efficient decisions and take care of the ball. Romo might open up more big plays, but he would also bring along a greater chance for negative plays.

    And with regard to the Giants, he said they were 'pretty good,' which they are. Beat the Cowboys twice, beat the Ravens, beat the Patriots (who were a good team even without Brady, though it obviously isn't the same as beating them now), and they have a +22 scoring margin on the year. You can say their 10-4 record might be a tad misleading, but I think it's safe to say they're pretty good. Unless you think the number of pretty good teams in the NFL is about 4-5.

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    Crushing lost for Washington last night. As a Falcons fan, I hope they don't make it because they look like a likely first round match up. I would much rather play Detroit or Tampa Bay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Crushing lost for Washington last night. As a Falcons fan, I hope they don't make it because they look like a likely first round match up. I would much rather play Detroit or Tampa Bay.
    Their defense was atrocious and they had zero rushing attack. Their offense was very poor majority of the game. Cousins missed some throws and had some others that were dropped. His interception was a bad ball for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinersSBChamps View Post
    Their defense was atrocious and they had zero rushing attack. Their offense was very poor majority of the game. Cousins missed some throws and had some others that were dropped. His interception was a bad ball for sure.
    We can crap the bed against all three of those teams at any given time, but none of them scare me much.

    Detroits offense doesn't scare me, neither does Tampa in any facet. Washington, yeah 4 weeks ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    He's clearly the superior QB based on what? It's funny to see talk about Romo 'getting an opportunity' when he's been the QB there for a decade. I realize that this offense is set up pretty well right now, but it's not as though Romo's teams were hurting for talent on offense.

    The team is playing extremely well behind Dak, and their chemistry is off the charts. You may believe that would remain the same while QB play improved with Romo, but no one knows that for sure, and it would be pretty dumb to mess with it at this point. Dak does what that offense needs the QB to do - make good, efficient decisions and take care of the ball. Romo might open up more big plays, but he would also bring along a greater chance for negative plays.

    And with regard to the Giants, he said they were 'pretty good,' which they are. Beat the Cowboys twice, beat the Ravens, beat the Patriots (who were a good team even without Brady, though it obviously isn't the same as beating them now), and they have a +22 scoring margin on the year. You can say their 10-4 record might be a tad misleading, but I think it's safe to say they're pretty good. Unless you think the number of pretty good teams in the NFL is about 4-5.
    Giants didn't play the Patriots. I don't think the Ravens are very good either.

    I would play Romo if I were the Cowboys. I agree Dak is the safe choice, but I don't think the safe choice wins titles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Crushing lost for Washington last night. As a Falcons fan, I hope they don't make it because they look like a likely first round match up. I would much rather play Detroit or Tampa Bay.
    Cousins is mind boggling sometimes. He looks like a top 5 QB for a couple weeks and then has a game like last night, which was awful. Skins are built right now to have a ton of weapons and need a QB to make plays for mediocre defense. Last night Cousins lost them the game.

    The Lions are a complete pretender. If I was the Falcons, I would be rooting for Detroit matchup. Neither the offense or defense is very good.

    TB has some talent. Kinda averagish offense and defense.

    Skins are mediocre on defense, but they could possibly put up a lot of points on the Falcons. I don't think the Lions or TB would do the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Giants didn't play the Patriots. I don't think the Ravens are very good either.

    I would play Romo if I were the Cowboys. I agree Dak is the safe choice, but I don't think the safe choice wins titles.
    Romo two years ago is better than Dak but that was two years ago. Who knows how Romo can play right now. Not to mention can he even take a hit anymore? Last two have caused broken bones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesfan View Post
    Cousins is mind boggling sometimes. He looks like a top 5 QB for a couple weeks and then has a game like last night, which was awful. Skins are built right now to have a ton of weapons and need a QB to make plays for mediocre defense. Last night Cousins lost them the game.

    The Lions are a complete pretender. If I was the Falcons, I would be rooting for Detroit matchup. Neither the offense or defense is very good.

    TB has some talent. Kinda averagish offense and defense.

    Skins are mediocre on defense, but they could possibly put up a lot of points on the Falcons. I don't think the Lions or TB would do the same.
    Detroit is 100% the team to face. Nothing intimidating about them whatsoever, including Stafford.

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    I think the Cowboys are playing great football right now, but they have some obvious holes. They are 12-2 or whatever because they play good solid football and Dak doesn't make many mistakes (and the OL and run game have been solid). Their holes are pretty glaring if you watch them closely. Other than Irving, the Cowboys couldn't get any pressure on the QB if they let their DL guys ride motorcycles back there. It'll take more than that come playoff time. They also need Clabourne back out there. I think the Cowboy defensive coaches deserve MAJOR credit for doing what they've done this season but they have pretty much maxed out the results for way less than max level players, other than Sean Lee and Byron Jones. Tyrone Crawford gets mega dollars but has just slightly more impact on the game than I do. If Reefer Gregory or sore back Lawrence can get some pressure from the other side they might survive until at least the NFC championship game.

    On the offensive side, Dak has been great for a rookie because he takes what the defense gives him. Zeke has been great but a lot of that's because of the OL. The OL has been great but my problem with them has been the fact that they seem to read and believe their own press clippings. It'll be a little harder come playoff time. Dez makes me absolutely crazy. When he's on he's as good as any WR in the game, but sadly he isn't on all that much. I don't know how much of it is injury related and how much of it is something else, and frankly I don't care. when you make $15M/year I expect your arse to be superman every freakin' week and I"m not seeing that. I'm very happy with the Cowboys record and accomplishments this season but if they're going to go to the SB it'll take more than what I've seen so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahomahawk View Post
    I think the Cowboys are playing great football right now, but they have some obvious holes. They are 12-2 or whatever because they play good solid football and Dak doesn't make many mistakes (and the OL and run game have been solid). Their holes are pretty glaring if you watch them closely. Other than Irving, the Cowboys couldn't get any pressure on the QB if they let their DL guys ride motorcycles back there. It'll take more than that come playoff time. They also need Clabourne back out there. I think the Cowboy defensive coaches deserve MAJOR credit for doing what they've done this season but they have pretty much maxed out the results for way less than max level players, other than Sean Lee and Byron Jones. Tyrone Crawford gets mega dollars but has just slightly more impact on the game than I do. If Reefer Gregory or sore back Lawrence can get some pressure from the other side they might survive until at least the NFC championship game.

    On the offensive side, Dak has been great for a rookie because he takes what the defense gives him. Zeke has been great but a lot of that's because of the OL. The OL has been great but my problem with them has been the fact that they seem to read and believe their own press clippings. It'll be a little harder come playoff time. Dez makes me absolutely crazy. When he's on he's as good as any WR in the game, but sadly he isn't on all that much. I don't know how much of it is injury related and how much of it is something else, and frankly I don't care. when you make $15M/year I expect your arse to be superman every freakin' week and I"m not seeing that. I'm very happy with the Cowboys record and accomplishments this season but if they're going to go to the SB it'll take more than what I've seen so far.
    The Cowboys do have some issues. But I would so any other NFC playoff team has just as many if not more issues than they do. The only team who might not is the Seahawks but their big issue, and it's big, is that they are so inconsistent on offense. One week they will score 30+ and the next only get a field goal. I think the Boys are as good as any team in the NFC. And if they get #1 pick then playing in Jerryworld for two games will be a big advantage for them (no cold weather).

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    Quote Originally Posted by chop2chip View Post
    Detroit is 100% the team to face. Nothing intimidating about them whatsoever, including Stafford.
    Lions and Stafford have 8 game winning drives this year. Say what you want, but Stafford and the Lions offense have been pretty efficient all season. Hand injury aside, I'd rather face the Redskins who have a negative turnover margin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Lions and Stafford have 8 game winning drives this year. Say what you want, but Stafford and the Lions offense have been pretty efficient all season. Hand injury aside, I'd rather face the Redskins who have a negative turnover margin.
    Neither of them are that scary.

    But given that Detroit has the 31st ranked DVOA on defense. I'd happy take my chance with them. Falcons Detroit would be an awesome high scoring game most likely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    Lions and Stafford have 8 game winning drives this year. Say what you want, but Stafford and the Lions offense have been pretty efficient all season. Hand injury aside, I'd rather face the Redskins who have a negative turnover margin.
    Wanting to face a team bc they have a negative turnover margin is funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    Romo two years ago is better than Dak but that was two years ago. Who knows how Romo can play right now. Not to mention can he even take a hit anymore? Last two have caused broken bones.
    Im assuming he's playing to his previous ability in practices and such. Romo can get the team in the right plays; he can also make tough throws. I know he is a choke artist, but do you really trust a rookie QB in the playoffs? Dak has been good, but it's all just hand the ball off and make short throws. Seems they don't move the ball much against good defenses: NYG, Min, etc. Though they did move it well vs. Philly.
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