YOU LIBERALS!

[Runnin]

Is this equivalent to "Ni***r lover!"? I was called that in my younger days and now I get this. It always seems to be used in the same context, except of course when AA uses it, but does it really mean the same thing?

Perhaps it deserves its own emoticon. Using this phrase is like hanging a sign around your neck, but what does the sign say?

To me, the phrase means this: I am a White man (or wish I was) entitled by GOD, and I greatly fear for the future , or in fact any change, however slight, that disrupts my advantageous station in life, whether earned or received at birth.

Is that it? Maybe some of you who use the phrase can tell me what you mean by it.



YOU LIBERALS! YOU LIBERALS! YOU LIBERALS!


FYI, Johnny Cash was a liberal.

[57Brave]

Was used as a slur during the Iraq / VietNam Wars that Left Leaning people were not as machismo as say the idiots that held the belief that to fighting fir USA regardless of the fight was noble.
Which begot

The weak ass argument was "if we only let the military fight ... " blah blah blah.

Like you say Runnin -- in peace time the slur is "niggler lover"
Which I never really saw as a slur -- just a hillbilly notion.
Hurts me to the core knowing people thought I was compassionate for others

Now a days a "Liberal " is someone damned for infanticide.
Which goes back to -- again " if you can't be right on the policy fight the politics. If you can't win the politics --- get personal "

[Hawk]

Sounds just a bit reminiscent of a persecution complex.

[acesfull86]

"You liberals" sure are "thugs" when it comes to political correctness.

I usually use it in the context of describing a group of people who I feel have a misguided faith in the government as a problem solver and/or a misguided (IMO) view of economics. I also usually use thug as a synonym for criminal or ruffian. Apparently both of these things make me a racist.

What about "you conservatives?" I've heard that one before.

[sturg33]

"You liberals" sure are "thugs" when it comes to political correctness.

I usually use it in the context of describing a group of people who I feel have a misguided faith in the government as a problem solver and/or a misguided (IMO) view of economics. I also usually use thug as a synonym for criminal or ruffian. Apparently both of these things make me a racist.

What about "you conservatives?" I've heard that one before.

Nah conservatives are always bigots

[57Brave]

not always and not all of them

[weso1]

Is this equivalent to "Ni***r lover!"? I was called that in my younger days and now I get this. It always seems to be used in the same context, except of course when AA uses it, but does it really mean the same thing?

Perhaps it deserves its own emoticon. Using this phrase is like hanging a sign around your neck, but what does the sign say?

To me, the phrase means this: I am a White man (or wish I was) entitled by GOD, and I greatly fear for the future , or in fact any change, however slight, that disrupts my advantageous station in life, whether earned or received at birth.

Is that it? Maybe some of you who use the phrase can tell me what you mean by it.



YOU LIBERALS! YOU LIBERALS! YOU LIBERALS!


FYI, Johnny Cash was a liberal.

I think some use it as an insult. I think maybe your interpretation is off base though. Why bring race into everything? I think if you were going to truly be offended by it then maybe you should go after the homophobe angle.

[Runnin]

I think some use it as an insult. I think maybe your interpretation is off base though. Why bring race into everything? I think if you were going to truly be offended by it then maybe you should go after the homophobe angle.

I'm not offended by it because I know it's probably accurate, considering the political positions of people who would use that phrase, meaning far right enough to be threatened by even right-leaning Democrats. But I know it's meant to be offensive; the contempt comes through loud and clear.

I feel most political discussions have a underlying racial component but I admit that's my prejudice. Maybe things have changed more than I'm aware.

[goldfly]

as much as i love Cash

you should have gone with this instead of him for this thread imo:



if you were to use a show or a different picture imo that is

[BedellBrave]

I'd piggy-back on ace's usage and I'd generally add in certain stances on some questions of morality - particularly sexual ethics and life issues. I do think that at a basic word level - and insofar as one who is politically liberal reflects this, it's actually a nice word (i.e., a certain generosity of spirit). Much like the word conservative has a good denotation.

[Coredor]

Personally it's the ones who like to think of themselves as progressives who I get annoyed with on the left. Liberal is kind of a hijacked term. Classical liberalism is more towards the libertarian end of the scale. I do think it's thrown around lightly and used more as an insult by the right. I don't see a racial component to the term although race is a huge factor in politics. I particularly think that the Democratic party has become associated with blacks especially in the south. Given its history, it's ironic that's the way it's gotten now. Personally I think the less we think about politics in terms of demographics, the more thoughtful we can be. I'm honestly tired of the various demographic coalitions and there strange hold on the democrats. It's really my biggest complaint with the party.

[acesfull86]

If there's anything insulting about "liberals," it's that the modern day left stole the word.

[57Brave]

or

[Runnin]

If there's anything insulting about "liberals," it's that the modern day left stole the word.

The Right thinks it should own all the words too?

But it is interesting how simple adjectives that should be part of any reasonable viewpoint can get "hijacked", I'd say "claimed", by one side or the other. In Japan the conservative party is the LDP - Liberal Democratic Party.

[goldfly]

If there's anything insulting about "liberals," it's that the modern day left stole the word.

[57Brave]

[The Chosen One]

If the free market wanted to pay workers more money it would have already.

[sturg33]

That's how they make record profits?

Interesting.

[weso1]

or

You know the reverse is true using this same logic right?

[sturg33]

Additionally - I'm having a hard time finding any evidence of this quote - especially in context of "why Costco makes record profits"

I do know that Sinegal has not been the CEO for 3 years. I also know that, while true - his salary was only about $600K in 2012... that he exercised about $13M in stock options... something those funny little internet memes always seems to forget to mention. So in other words, he is just like every other greedy CEO.

Good for him for paying well though. That's actually great. I'm guessing with no evidence that Costco employees are a lot more skilled than Walmart's though