Banuelos has elbow surgery to remove bone spur

[dak]

This is best case scenario as far as I'm concerned. Didn't need another TJ and it seems the root cause of the issue was addressed versus just rest and rehab and question marks in the Spring.

[nsacpi]

Good to hear. I'd like to see him given a shot to earn the fifth starter job next spring. He is out of options I believe.

[The Chosen One]

Wearing a Tomahawk across his chest, it's only a matter of time until another TJ is needed.

[Braves1976]

Good to hear. I'd like to see him given a shot to earn the fifth starter job next spring. He is out of options I believe.

Yep, he'll need to be either in the rotation or in the bullpen. Hopefully removing the bone spur will work out for him similar as it did for Viz. In other words, hopefully he gets more velocity back on his fastball as the velocity he got back to earlier this year didn't hold up for the season. And I am guessing the bone spur becoming more of an issue had something to do with it.

[GovClintonTyree]

Yep, he'll need to be either in the rotation or in the bullpen. Hopefully removing the bone spur will work out for him similar as it did for Viz. In other words, hopefully he gets more velocity back on his fastball as the velocity he got back to earlier this year didn't hold up for the season. And I am guessing the bone spur becoming more of an issue had something to do with it.

Excellent! I really liked him when he came up and was concerned with his recent struggles. This is fantastic news.

[GovClintonTyree]

Wearing a Tomahawk across his chest, it's only a matter of time until another TJ is needed.

Isn't our luck due to change?

[clvclv]

Would almost like to see them decide to put him in the pen for good - would give us our #1 and #2 lefties (with Paco) down there and allow McKirahan and Marksberry to battle it out for a chance to be the LOOGY. If they'd finally give in and convert Folty, we'd have the makings of a really good pen...

CL- Vizcaino
SU- Simmons
SU- Banuelos
RP- Folty
RP- Withrow
RP- Rodriguez

Grilli, Winkler, Marksberry, McKirahan

Worlds better than what we've had to suffer through this year IMO. Hopefully Mauricio Cabrera can improve his control a bit and he could be added to the mix by the time the new park opens.

[GovClintonTyree]

Would almost like to see them decide to put him in the pen for good - would give us our #1 and #2 lefties (with Paco) down there and allow McKirahan and Marksberry to battle it out for a chance to be the LOOGY. If they'd finally give in and convert Folty, we'd have the makings of a really good pen...

CL- Vizcaino
SU- Simmons
SU- Banuelos
RP- Folty
RP- Withrow
RP- Rodriguez

Grilli, Winkler, Marksberry, McKirahan

Worlds better than what we've had to suffer through this year IMO. Hopefully Mauricio Cabrera can improve his control a bit and he could be added to the mix by the time the new park opens.

I think Banuelos is a starter, possibly a very good one. I would rather give him another shot in the rotation. I think he'd win the job, question is whether he'd keep it. Hope the spur is the last clean up phase and not one more in a litany.

Don't turn him into a LOIGY yet.

[clvclv]

I think Banuelos is a starter, possibly a very good one. I would rather give him another shot in the rotation. I think he'd win the job, question is whether he'd keep it. Hope the spur is the last clean up phase and not one more in a litany.

Don't turn him into a LOIGY yet.

Think you misunderstood. I mentioned turning McKirahan or Marksberry into a LOOGY (Marksberry could turn out to be a really good one IMO - .174 BAA, 2.19 ERA, 1.05 WHIP against them thus far at the MLB level). Banuelos would certainly be a late inning piece/setup guy if he is eventually turned into a reliever - he's way to good to just be a LOOGY.

Just think it might help him health-wise (and velocity-wise too) in the long run.

[nsacpi]

Banuelos would be my choice for fifth starter next year. With Miller, Teheran, Minor and FA signing being the other members of the rotation.

I'd give Banuelos the whole season to show what he can do as a starter.

I'd start Wisler, Baby Harang and Foltynevich in AAA next year. Not the pen. The pen might be their ultimate destination but I want to give them every opportunity to develop as starters. That's part of the reason I want to sign or trade for a couple veteran relievers this off-season. Let them round out the pen rather than guys with a possible future as starting pitchers.

[GovClintonTyree]

Think you misunderstood. I mentioned turning McKirahan or Marksberry into a LOOGY (Marksberry could turn out to be a really good one IMO - .174 BAA, 2.19 ERA, 1.05 WHIP against them thus far at the MLB level). Banuelos would certainly be a late inning piece/setup guy if he is eventually turned into a reliever - he's way to good to just be a LOOGY.

Just think it might help him health-wise (and velocity-wise too) in the long run.

No, I understood - I don't want to turn Banuelos into a Lefthanded One Inning Guy. LOIGY.

If he runs into any more significant injury issues I would agree he'd be successful in the pen. But if the guy can be a successful starter he starts.

[Braves1976]

No, I understood - I don't want to turn Banuelos into a Lefthanded One Inning Guy. LOIGY.

If he runs into any more significant injury issues I would agree he'd be successful in the pen. But if the guy can be a successful starter he starts.

I agree with you and nsacpi (as usual me and nsacpi agree, at least most of the time). I still stand by my take on the Man-Ban trade being one of our best, regardless how it works out. I liked Shreve a lot and he's been just as good as I expected. But he is was already just what Man-Ban could be if he ends up in the bullpen. While Man-Ban if healthy has the potential to be much more in a starting role, esp. if he gets his velocity back.

[nsacpi]

His off-speed stuff is good enough that he can be a decent fifth starter with an 89-90 mph fastball. If he can pick up a couple ticks on his fastball he could be a solid middle of the rotation type guy. I'm willing to give him a season to show what he's got as a starting pitcher.

[zbhargrove]

Yep, he'll need to be either in the rotation or in the bullpen. Hopefully removing the bone spur will work out for him similar as it did for Viz. In other words, hopefully he gets more velocity back on his fastball as the velocity he got back to earlier this year didn't hold up for the season. And I am guessing the bone spur becoming more of an issue had something to do with it.

Hopefully he doesn't take PEDs in between, though!