Climate Change

[sturg33]

Seems to be hot button topic.

What's the solution? How much will it cost? And what will be considered a success?

[57Brave]

better question is what will it cost doing nothing/ ignoring

[sturg33]

I don't think anyone could answer that.

So I asked a question. Please answer it

[goldfly]

[sturg33]

Can anyone try to answer the questions in the OP?

[yeezus]

Can anyone try to answer the questions in the OP?

this is what i can't stand about you. you think this somehow makes a point and "wins" you internet debate points.
no, i can't answer those questions, really. does that mean we should ignore something that's a clear issue? I'm sure people in the know have a much better idea of those answers than anyone here does. But do you believe it's not an issue, or one that we shouldn't be striving towards slowing down because we here at chop country don't know exact answers to those questions?

So, I told you I can't answer the question, which I'm sure is insanely satisfying to your little smug self (for some reason...as it proves nothing...). Now, can you answer how much it will cost, or WHAT (lives) it will cost if the many scientists are correct about the coming effects?

[sturg33]

this is what i can't stand about you. you think this somehow makes a point and "wins" you internet debate points.
no, i can't answer those questions, really. does that mean we should ignore something that's a clear issue? I'm sure people in the know have a much better idea of those answers than anyone here does. But do you believe it's not an issue, or one that we shouldn't be striving towards slowing down because we here at chop country don't know exact answers to those questions?

So, I told you I can't answer the question, which I'm sure is insanely satisfying to your little smug self (for some reason...as it proves nothing...). Now, can you answer how much it will cost, or WHAT (lives) it will cost if the many scientists are correct about the coming effects?

Honestly, I'm up for a legit discussion on solutions. I hear the left constantly saying we have to do something! And goldy and the like make fun of republicans for not agreeing. I'm legitimately asking, what should we do?

What will do to make the oceans stop rising? Is it more recycling? Is it less gasoline? Is it population control? (Perhaps that's why the left likes funding PP so much). Once we can answer that, how do we implement such strategies?

How much will it cost? How do we pay for it? We're already $19 trillion in debt. Is the left ready to cut entitlement spending? Is the right ready to cut defense spending? Is the right willing to raise taxes? Would raising taxes hurt job growth?

How do ensure the rest of the world plays along? Would you agree that we would need a similar investment from China or India in order to make a difference? Would they be willing to? I don't think they would.

The biggest question is, even if we do all that - does it actually make a difference? Would it reverse the damage that's been done?

Now to answer your question. I obviously have no idea. But I'm not the one screaming for a solution. Your side is. So your side actually has to propose a real solution? My guess is if we do nothing, we could have some serious consequences centuries down the road. Things like insect extinction and weather catastrophes come to mind. But I'm just guessing of course.

[Oklahomahawk]

Seeing as how Hitler's scientists could make gasoline out of coal in about 1944 and we still can't come up with a REAL, affordable, alternative energy source I'd have to say the "fix is in" but of course pretty much everybody already knows that, it's just that some don't care and most of the rest don't care enough.

[zitothebrave]

Seems to be hot button topic.

What's the solution? How much will it cost? And what will be considered a success?

I think the solution is scale back as much as possible. When I say as much as possible I mean that. Don't do anything that greatly would inhibit growth because we need that. We don't want to live like the Amish for example. But scale back. Government should be incentivizing companies to come up with cheap alternative energies. We have the technology, we have the brainpower, it just doesn't make sense for them to go against vested interests of big oil.

Success is stopping the rapid rate of emissions growth and stop seeing the world warming up.

[Oklahomahawk]

Or maybe put together a sweetheart deal together that's so big the oil companies can't buy out whoever invents it. Maybe hack some of those SOBs private files to see some things they don't want us to see.

[The Chosen One]

Here we have an issue where the US can take full leadership over, but some in this country are too busy arguing if India and China are gonna play ball.

Then again those on the right still deny any thing is happening.

What is going to hurt us the most soon is the fish population. We're overfishing really bad as it is now plus the effects climate change is gonna have on the fish population in the ocean.

[zitothebrave]

Here we have an issue where the US can take full leadership over, but some in this country are too busy arguing if India and China are gonna play ball.

Then again those on the right still deny any thing is happening.

What is going to hurt us the most soon is the fish population. We're overfishing really bad as it is now plus the effects climate change is gonna have on the fish population in the ocean.

I'm way more concerned about water tables than fish. DOn't get me wrong, fish issues will be cataclysmic. But if we run into issues with potable water, **** will get Mad Max really fast.

[The Chosen One]

I'm way more concerned about water tables than fish. DOn't get me wrong, fish issues will be cataclysmic. But if we run into issues with potable water, **** will get Mad Max really fast.

We have technology to desalinate. I think California is spending a lot of money on a desalination plant, and Britain is engineering a desalination basin in the desert somewhere in the middle east.

[MrShwag]

Stop the production and consumption of red meat

[Oklahomahawk]

...................and Britain is engineering a desalination basin in the desert somewhere in the middle east.

Sounds like the opening lines from a Bond film.

[zitothebrave]

We have technology to desalinate. I think California is spending a lot of money on a desalination plant, and Britain is engineering a desalination basin in the desert somewhere in the middle east.

And at what cost does that come?

Imagine having to desalinate water before watering crops. Time alone would be a massive drain. And whoever controls the devices to desalinate has the power. You'd like to imagine that goodness will win out, but come on we live in a world where greed rules.

[The Chosen One]

And at what cost does that come?

Imagine having to desalinate water before watering crops. Time alone would be a massive drain. And whoever controls the devices to desalinate has the power. You'd like to imagine that goodness will win out, but come on we live in a world where greed rules.

Well there's plenty of water to desalinate just the technology isn't cheap yet to do it widespread.

Again, battling climate chang is going to cost a lot no matter what route you take, at least desalination is one front of the impending freshwater shortage in a few decades.

[The Chosen One]

Stop the production and consumption of red meat

That's like telling America to stop being America.

[Runnin]

That's like telling America to stop being America.

Yeah, that too.

[weso1]

And at what cost does that come?

You support Bernie Sanders. What are you?