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    Wieters?

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    Wieters a great match for ATL: Veteran C to help their pitching staff, good hitter, Ga. Tech ties -- and they have protected 1st round pick.

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    No

    He's 30 and will be expensive. We passed on Mac for similar issues, and Wieters isn't close to being as good as Mac was. If the Yankees are interested in him. I'd ask about McCann for sure. He obviously doesn't have a ton left in the tank, but should be had for much less overall cash. Probably could get him for Grilli, however that needs to happen.
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    I say he doesn't get Mac money due to his injury history (and given he hasn't been nearly as good/consistent as Mac). And it's at least somewhat possible we could get Wieters at a discount given his injury history and his tis to Atl. I doubt it happens, but if he'd sign for 4/60 or somewhere thereabouts, I would definetly do it, assuming we move some money around 1st.


    But I also do lIke the idea of trading for Mac as well.

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    Outside of OBP there is a lot to like with Weiters. Good defender, 20 HR power, and he is a switch hitter. He has only has 1 major injury and I view having 1 year off a plus since that's one year less of a beating his body has taken from the grind of catching. I wouldn't break the bank for him but I would be interested for the right price. I think if he gets a qualified offer he takes it.
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    I wonder if the Yanks would eat a couple million a year on Macs contract. 17 per for the next 3 seasons is alot.

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    I wouldn't be shocked to see the Braves give another O's over 30 FA 4 years at market average prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carp View Post
    I say he doesn't get Mac money due to his injury history (and given he hasn't been nearly as good/consistent as Mac). And it's at least somewhat possible we could get Wieters at a discount given his injury history and his tis to Atl. I doubt it happens, but if he'd sign for 4/60 or somewhere thereabouts, I would definetly do it, assuming we move some money around 1st.


    But I also do lIke the idea of trading for Mac as well.
    4/60 is way too much for Wieters. Don't get me wrong, has value, but given his injury history that's massive sink.
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    Happy to see the report that BAL will (supposedly) make Wieters a QO. That should greatly reduce any chance the Braves will pursue him seriously. Iannetta, Avila, and Navarro give you similar performance at what's likely to be a MUCH lesser cost. A platoon with Saltalamacchia and [Insert name of RHH backup Catcher] might even get you close to Wieter's production at a MUCH, MUCH lesser cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dak View Post
    Happy to see the report that BAL will (supposedly) make Wieters a QO. That should greatly reduce any chance the Braves will pursue him seriously. Iannetta, Avila, and Navarro give you similar performance at what's likely to be a MUCH lesser cost. A platoon with Saltalamacchia and [Insert name of RHH backup Catcher] might even get you close to Wieter's production at a MUCH, MUCH lesser cost.
    I'm fine with giving Bethancourt a year. Only other option I like is Derek Norris or Austin Hedges, whichever one San Diego doesn't want.
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    I'm fine with him...depends on the price. But with his agent it's not happening.

    I'd consider going 3/30 with a team option and incentives. But that's never happening.

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    I'd go 3/35 or even 4/42 honestly, but it won't happen and he will get much more in my opinion.

    I'm personally all on board for a blockbuster deal for Lucroy, but I think we get Wieters or stick with Beth.

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    With an early 2nd round pick I don't see us giving that up for Weiters. I'd rather go after Lucroy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    I wouldn't be shocked to see the Braves give another O's over 30 FA 4 years at market average prices.
    Who are you talking about? Weiters is 29.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rico43 View Post
    Who are you talking about? Weiters is 29.
    2016 will be his age 30 season. Still he fits the bill of an average at best player that they are likely to target this offseason.

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    Isn't he one of the more bad defensive catchers in the league? Well I guess since we took a chance on AJ might as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by thewupk View Post
    2016 will be his age 30 season. Still he fits the bill of an average at best player that they are likely to target this offseason.
    And would be a perfect bridge to Herbert or Morales (if he can stick behind the plate) or a potential international signee. Not to mention he'd eliminate the need to spend on a veteran backup/caddy for Bethancourt. IIRC, Wieters has always drawn good reviews for the way he handles a staff - which would help with all the young pitching.

    Not sure the brass will want to part with the pick he'll cost, but if you could get him at 3/$45 million it wouldn't be the worst signing in the world IMO.

    Everybody wants to knock his 100 OPS+ last season, but if you'll look deeper, that was 14% better than "average" in 2015.

    "At the plate, Wieters was solid, albeit unspectacular, slashing .267/.319/.422 with eight homers in 282 plate appearances. That batting line translates to a park-adjusted OPS of 100 — exactly league average — which is in line with Wieters’ career marks. (He was off to a much better start in 2014 before tearing the UCL in his throwing elbow.) While league-average production isn’t the most exciting concept in the world, it’s extremely valuable when coming from behind the plate; the league-average catcher in 2015, for instance, hit just .232/.295/.383, leaving them about 14 percent below league-average production."

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/1...t-wieters.html
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    Wouldnt wanna spend our protected pick on Wieters but if they dont go for one of the top 3 bats, or the aces, not sure what else you spend it on, gotta spend money.

    With Boras as his agent, doubt it happens though.

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    No way I'd give up our high 2nd round pick, which will probably end up in the 35-40 range, plus the money and years he will command, for him. Pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyward View Post
    Wouldnt wanna spend our protected pick on Wieters
    Huh?? Do you even know what a protected pick is?

    If he is offered a QO he won't be a Brave. They won't even give up a low 40s pick for him (where they got Riley last draft). Simple as that.
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