Not sure how credible this guy is but we'll see.
http://archcitysports.com/2015/11/13...eddie-freeman/
Not sure how credible this guy is but we'll see.
http://archcitysports.com/2015/11/13...eddie-freeman/
I'm not against trading Freddie, I don't think anybody should be off-limits. But sending both him and you-know-who to StL in successive offseasons would just be cruel.
That said, not getting too worked up about this rumor until more credible outlets report it.
Everyone has a price but as Tx said, trading him and we know who would be a kick in the nuts.
That being said, what exactly could they offer.
Wouldnt get worked up about it unless more credible guys report it.
They have Reyes the #17 PITCHING prospect and Pham would have to be involved I'm sure.
At this point, yes I would consider trading Freeman. But here is the deal. He is a guy who can hit for average and power and provide decent defense. If you are Coppy, you HAVE to stick to your guns and not give in for a couple of prospects.
I would ask for something anchored around Wacha, Martinez, Reyes, Piscotty.
Those are 3 good pitchers with high upside and a good hitter. Not saying all need to be in the deal.
We don't need Adams back, just stick Swisher at 1b, who cares.
We have to consider trading Freddie. But we must 100% be bowled over with an offer for him. Unlike Simmons his value is quantifiable, he's a quality hitter and he still could potentially grow into some more power. As I said in another thread, I want a package similar to what Florida got for Miggy.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
is this from this guy? if so I call bull**** on this story....
DEVON RAVINE | Northwest Florida Daily News
Charles "Scott" McKinney listens to Circuit Court Judge Thomas Remington during his sentencing hearing Tuesday. McKinney was sentenced to five years in state prison for defrauding radio show investors.
5-year sentence for talk-show host
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The local sports talk-show host bilked investors with plans to syndicate 'Southern Sports Tonight''
February 24, 2009 - 12:01 PM
Tom McLaughlin
Daily News
SHALIMAR - Local sports talk-show host Charles "Scott" McKinney was escorted from a courtroom in handcuffs Tuesday after he was sentenced to five years in prison for defrauding radio show investors.
Okaloosa County Circuit Judge Thomas Remington was not moved by the "voluminous letters" he said he'd received from McKinney's supporters. He gave McKinney the stiffest penalty possible under a plea agreement reached Jan. 2.
McKinney was charged with 11 counts of fraud and grand theft. Under terms of the plea, he could receive no less than a year in prison and no more than five years.
In addition to the sentence, Remington also ordered McKinney to serve 50 years' probation following his prison term and to pay restitution of $188,508.
McKinney was a sports analyst and talk show host for Star Broadcasting, which broadcasts locally on 98.1 F.M. The Ticket.
He could be heard from 6 to 9 a.m. most weekday mornings as co-host of "The Morning Wrap." He also hosted "Southern Sports Tonight" on the same station. That show ran weekdays from 3 to 7 p.m.
Ron Hale, owner of Star Broadcasting, declined comment Tuesday. It was unclear what changes would be made to broadcast schedules with McKinney gone.
McKinney was arrested in March after six men who had invested in his "Southern Sports Tonight" show claimed he stole nearly $140,000 from them. Authorities said he sold shares in Southern Sports Tonight LLC to investors by claiming he was about to send his show into national syndication.
The shares he sold - some of them for 49 percent ownership each - far exceeded 100 percent stock in the company.
McKinney originally was charged with 16 offenses, but by Tuesday's sentencing that number had been cut to 11. The charges brought included felony investment fraud and grand theft.
Prosecutor Russ Edgar told the court McKinney deserved to serve five years. He said this wasn't the first time investors who involved themselves with him had cried foul after losing money. Edgar cited cases in Mississippi as examples.
"He says he's sorry, but how sorry can he be? He's done it before," Edgar said.
Edgar also produced records he claimed indicated that McKinney spent much of the money he obtained on gambling and an extravagant lifestyle.
The people who spoke on McKinney's behalf said he was a good man who made some bad business decisions. A couple of character witnesses brought up his staying on air for 48 hours after Hurricane Ivan as an example of his devotion to the area.
"We're lucky to have a man of Scott's caliber in this community," said Ed Lowe, owner of Crestview Paint and Body, a frequent sponsor of McKinney's talk show.
McKinney's attorney, public defender Tom Murphy, asked that McKinney receive a suspended sentence and time to pay off the investors.
"He wants to make these victims whole," Murphy said. "Allow him to pay restitution and re-establish his standing in the community."
McKinney's uncle, Birmingham, Ala., attorney Charles Sparks, said of his nephew "he has a servant's heart."
"My dad used to say he never met a stranger," Sparks said.
However, Sparks testified that McKinney was not a good businessman.
"If I thought my nephew had set out to defraud anyone, I would not be here today," he said.
None of McKinney's victims were present at the hearing to hear his apology to them. He also apologized to the people who "listen to me on a daily basis.
"I've let them down," he said.
Contacted after the hearing, victim Brian Campbell said he was "really pleased" with McKinney's sentence.
"I think this is the best thing for everyone, including Scott," he said. "I think Scott needs some time to think long and hard about how he wants to live his life when he comes back out."
Losing Heyward and Freeman to the blankity blank Cardinals in back-to-back years would really piss me off. We would really have to bend the Cardinals over. If you demand Harvey/DeGrom for Simmons, how do you not demand Wacha for Freeman?
If we did this and don't bring the haul of all hauls, and I'm talking MAJOR LEAGUE ****ING TALENT THAT HAS PRODUCED....
Then I'll be like Art Howe in Moneyball...."You're killing this team."
I have no clue. I saw the link on fb and there a bunch of comments from cardinals fans talking about it. And Onley did say today that we could match up with the Cardinals on a Freddie trade. Wacha, Pham, and Reyes would be a steep price.
After looking into the sources, im calling fubar on this one, but it does raise an interesting discussion about Freeman as St.Louis may not be a bad fit
Wacha and Reyes would allow you to trade a Miller and/or Teheran by adding a guy that slides into the rotation immediately and another that is not far behind.Originally Posted by Hudson2
I'll say this. If they miss out on Heyward then I think they'll turn to us and Freeman. Freeman and Markakis would interest them alot I believe.
And Hart and Coppy will deserve every bit of it and should be fired immediately when Freeman beats us in the 2018 NLCS.
I think Piscotty, Grichuk and Adams.
If they are after Freeman then that means they want to resign Heyward most likely. They have Pham for CF and Moss as a back-up to LF/RF and 1B.
Lol I'll be happy to make 3rd place in the division let alone make to the NLCS.
Forever Fredi
You can trade Miller and Teheran NOW and just replace them on the FA market.
I like the idea of waiting on them to see if they sign Heyward before making a move at Freeman. BUT if they want Freeman to entice Heyward to re-sign then you ask a lot.
If they miss on Heyward, then like Hudson said, you see what they would give for Freeman and Markakis
Oh, yeah, I was just feeding the same crap that's being pushed on us now. Wait until that new ballpark makes us instantly better! We're gonna sell out every game with that 75-win team!
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Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
I don't see the point in keeping teheran, Freeman or Shelby. Flip all 3. Go with the full rebuild. It will make Heyward and Simmons unloads hurt less.
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