Not sure how credible this guy is but we'll see.
http://archcitysports.com/2015/11/13...eddie-freeman/
Not sure how credible this guy is but we'll see.
http://archcitysports.com/2015/11/13...eddie-freeman/
I'm not against trading Freddie, I don't think anybody should be off-limits. But sending both him and you-know-who to StL in successive offseasons would just be cruel.
That said, not getting too worked up about this rumor until more credible outlets report it.
Everyone has a price but as Tx said, trading him and we know who would be a kick in the nuts.
That being said, what exactly could they offer.
Wouldnt get worked up about it unless more credible guys report it.
They have Reyes the #17 PITCHING prospect and Pham would have to be involved I'm sure.
At this point, yes I would consider trading Freeman. But here is the deal. He is a guy who can hit for average and power and provide decent defense. If you are Coppy, you HAVE to stick to your guns and not give in for a couple of prospects.
I would ask for something anchored around Wacha, Martinez, Reyes, Piscotty.
Those are 3 good pitchers with high upside and a good hitter. Not saying all need to be in the deal.
We don't need Adams back, just stick Swisher at 1b, who cares.
We have to consider trading Freddie. But we must 100% be bowled over with an offer for him. Unlike Simmons his value is quantifiable, he's a quality hitter and he still could potentially grow into some more power. As I said in another thread, I want a package similar to what Florida got for Miggy.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
is this from this guy? if so I call bull**** on this story....
DEVON RAVINE | Northwest Florida Daily News
Charles "Scott" McKinney listens to Circuit Court Judge Thomas Remington during his sentencing hearing Tuesday. McKinney was sentenced to five years in state prison for defrauding radio show investors.
5-year sentence for talk-show host
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The local sports talk-show host bilked investors with plans to syndicate 'Southern Sports Tonight''
February 24, 2009 - 12:01 PM
Tom McLaughlin
Daily News
SHALIMAR - Local sports talk-show host Charles "Scott" McKinney was escorted from a courtroom in handcuffs Tuesday after he was sentenced to five years in prison for defrauding radio show investors.
Okaloosa County Circuit Judge Thomas Remington was not moved by the "voluminous letters" he said he'd received from McKinney's supporters. He gave McKinney the stiffest penalty possible under a plea agreement reached Jan. 2.
McKinney was charged with 11 counts of fraud and grand theft. Under terms of the plea, he could receive no less than a year in prison and no more than five years.
In addition to the sentence, Remington also ordered McKinney to serve 50 years' probation following his prison term and to pay restitution of $188,508.
McKinney was a sports analyst and talk show host for Star Broadcasting, which broadcasts locally on 98.1 F.M. The Ticket.
He could be heard from 6 to 9 a.m. most weekday mornings as co-host of "The Morning Wrap." He also hosted "Southern Sports Tonight" on the same station. That show ran weekdays from 3 to 7 p.m.
Ron Hale, owner of Star Broadcasting, declined comment Tuesday. It was unclear what changes would be made to broadcast schedules with McKinney gone.
McKinney was arrested in March after six men who had invested in his "Southern Sports Tonight" show claimed he stole nearly $140,000 from them. Authorities said he sold shares in Southern Sports Tonight LLC to investors by claiming he was about to send his show into national syndication.
The shares he sold - some of them for 49 percent ownership each - far exceeded 100 percent stock in the company.
McKinney originally was charged with 16 offenses, but by Tuesday's sentencing that number had been cut to 11. The charges brought included felony investment fraud and grand theft.
Prosecutor Russ Edgar told the court McKinney deserved to serve five years. He said this wasn't the first time investors who involved themselves with him had cried foul after losing money. Edgar cited cases in Mississippi as examples.
"He says he's sorry, but how sorry can he be? He's done it before," Edgar said.
Edgar also produced records he claimed indicated that McKinney spent much of the money he obtained on gambling and an extravagant lifestyle.
The people who spoke on McKinney's behalf said he was a good man who made some bad business decisions. A couple of character witnesses brought up his staying on air for 48 hours after Hurricane Ivan as an example of his devotion to the area.
"We're lucky to have a man of Scott's caliber in this community," said Ed Lowe, owner of Crestview Paint and Body, a frequent sponsor of McKinney's talk show.
McKinney's attorney, public defender Tom Murphy, asked that McKinney receive a suspended sentence and time to pay off the investors.
"He wants to make these victims whole," Murphy said. "Allow him to pay restitution and re-establish his standing in the community."
McKinney's uncle, Birmingham, Ala., attorney Charles Sparks, said of his nephew "he has a servant's heart."
"My dad used to say he never met a stranger," Sparks said.
However, Sparks testified that McKinney was not a good businessman.
"If I thought my nephew had set out to defraud anyone, I would not be here today," he said.
None of McKinney's victims were present at the hearing to hear his apology to them. He also apologized to the people who "listen to me on a daily basis.
"I've let them down," he said.
Contacted after the hearing, victim Brian Campbell said he was "really pleased" with McKinney's sentence.
"I think this is the best thing for everyone, including Scott," he said. "I think Scott needs some time to think long and hard about how he wants to live his life when he comes back out."
Might as well trade him off. This team is going to be terrible for awhile. The only team in the history of baseball who cuts payroll and purposely tries to make themselves worse before moving into a brand new stadium. Awesome line of thinking.
Jerks.
NinersSBChamps (11-15-2015)
Realistically I don't think we trade Freeman. But if we do, can we get a Tex like package for him? Say Freeman and a pen arm for 4 pieces? I don't want to trade Free, but if Pitt would give up Glasnow and one of Meadows/Bell plus 2 others, I'd have to listen intently. Same goes for Houston, they have a lot of pieces that are intriguing: Appel, Tucker, Reed, Moran, Kemp, Davis, Daz, Martes, etc.
Again, I don't think we will deal him, but I'm curious what he could bring given our window to compete has moved further backwards.
Freeman's projected value is higher than Simmons by about 1 win per season imo. However, in looking at his surplus value (projected value minus salary) I would argue that Simmons is the slightly more valuable trade chip. Freeman is going to make almost 9M/year more than Simmons over the next five years.
Realistically, you can get a prospect ranked about 20 for Freeman plus one or two secondary pieces. If someone offered you a Top 10 prospect for Freeman you should probably do it.
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Here are the guys BA had 1-25 in their mid-season Top 50.
Seager
Gioloto
Gallo
Urias
Crawford
Schwarber
Glasnow
Arcia
Turner
Reyes
Moncada
Nola
Judge
Conforto
Devers
Olivera
Severino
Norris
Berrios
De Leon
Phillips
Barreto
Zimmer
Margot
Mondesi
I highly doubt we trade Freeman because, as others have mentioned, we don't have a 1B who will be ready within the next 2-3 years. Albies' presence made Simmons more expendable.
If Riley has a massive year and the FO feels he's more of a 1B than a 3B, then you could see something happen after the year, but I doubt that as well. You absolutely can not get rid of literally everyone before moving into a new stadium.
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Ken Rosenthal reporting "Braves have indeed shopped Freeman", "Was the talk of the Arizona Fall League", "Braves are shopping everyone owed money"
Main key points
"Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon"
Here's the link to Rosenthal's latest column...
https://t.co/cpmK3gmLzp
Please no..
"Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon"
http://www.talkingchop.com/2015/11/1...source=twitter
It's right. NOOO reason to do so. None in my opinion.
Trading Simmons, Freeman, Teheran, etc. is not the road I want to go down. However, I'm okay with it if we clearly win the trades. After seeing what has happened w/ Olivera and Simmons though, it's hard to have confidence we can clearly win these types of trades.
jpx7 (11-16-2015)
The goal of every team should be to have a great farm system. That is what matters in this sport
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