FWIW seems imminently available. Not sure what I'd be willing to give up to get him, but would assume most would consider him an upgrade over Garcia at 3B (if only defensively).
FWIW seems imminently available. Not sure what I'd be willing to give up to get him, but would assume most would consider him an upgrade over Garcia at 3B (if only defensively).
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Kinda pathetic to see yourself as a message board knight in shining armor. How impotent does someone have to be in real life to resort to playing hero on a message board?
So the Braves are going to suddenly start worrying about their infield defense?Originally Posted by clvclv
not sure about Lawrie. Probably would have to give too much up for not much more production or projected production. I would just call this next season a waste and see if Adonis can build value to be traded or build value to keep...
clvclv (11-27-2015), Horsehide Harry (11-28-2015), JohnAdcox (11-27-2015)
I'd check and see. Bean would probably try to make someone over pay since he was the centerpiece of the Donaldson trade. The price shouldn't be to high though.
I think this would be a solid target. Young, upside plus could play 2B or 3B. Even though he's a FA after 2017, I would be careful about what I would give up given where we are at in the rebuild.
He is an average hitter that plays average defense at 3b or 2b. Since he's young there is definitely room for more upside. He would be about a 2 win improvement over Garcia. He is only controlled for 2 more seasons.
Having said that, he isn't a long term solution, nor is he an impact solution. I don't think the Braves are currently in a position to trade away assets for marginal upgrades that are only controlled for 2 more years. Any position players they acquire need to have at least 3 years, and preferably 4 or more years of control left.
Exactly the reason I mentioned I'm unsure what I'd be willing to give up to get him. Really only mentioned him since we were mentioned as a potential "fit". Nothing of value to us (obviously given the timeline and lack of extended control), but I'm sure Beane would love to dump his salary. However, if you could land him for a couple of pieces with no long-term value to us (say two of Camargo/Jordan Edgerton and Steve Janas/Wes Parsons), I could at least see the line of thinking. He'd be an inexpensive (and young) upgrade to the MLB roster for the next couple of seasons that would fall in line with the "we're going to be better than we were in 2015" mantra. If the light suddenly came on and he played well enough to make you at least think about keeping him in the event Garcia regresses or Ruiz doesn't take the next step, what have you lost?
Low-risk, moderate-reward kind of player that might fit as a stopgap.
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Yes, it would all depend on the price to acquire him. I imagine a few contenders would be willing to pay a lot more than the Braves should be willing to offer.
clvclv (11-27-2015)
I don't know if we should trade for him or not, but I think he's one of the most overrated players in the game.
Yes yes yes. He's exactly the type of guy we should be targeting and fills a black hole for us.
Why? Is it the mediocrity that attracts you? Another guy somehow still making a living off of his prospect status years later.
Because when you're in a rebuild like we are he is exactly the type of player we should be bringing in. He's a huge talent but clearly hasn't put it together yet. But he's only 25 and made some strides last year. So yes, the mediocrity of a 25 year old very talented player with big upside is the type of guy we should take a shot on. Not wasting a position on a guy like Adonis Garcia. If he doesn't work out who cares....I'd always rather take a shot on a guy like him when our team's garbage and hopefully hit it big
That's fine when it only costs money or 2nd tier prospects to acquire. But it's doubtful Oakland just gives him away. And trading away valuable prospects for an underachieving player with only 2 years of control isn't very smart for a rebuilding team.
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clvclv (11-28-2015)
Exactly. Just say no to Lawrie.
I agree that if the cost is reasonable he's a good gamble. However, if Oakland wants someone like Sims, then I hang up.
JohnAdcox (11-28-2015)
The same could have been said about Francoeur and most everyone in here was ready to chase him out of town the day after he arrived in Atlanta.
It depends on what the A's are looking for in return, but we seem to be going after upside players right now. He does seem to fit with recent moves.
JohnAdcox (11-28-2015)
First, he did not make any strides last year. He has regressed each of the last 3 years and had an OBP under .300 last year.
Second, he's not a 'huge' talent. He's a good talent, but he was never even a top-30 prospect. A lot of his initial value was in his very good defense, but the last 3 years he's basically been average defensively. That's not a good sign for a guy at 23-25. He will hit for a low average, won't walk much, and has decent power...all while playing average defense. No thanks.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned his well-documented attitude issues. His temperament would seem to clash with 'The Braves Way ™'.
Spoiler alert: We don't really give a **** about "The Braves Way" at this point.
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