Gunman At Planned Parenthood

[57Brave]

Kills 8 .
Not a Sryian or Muslim or even a Black Lives Matters member.
Just another white male with a gun

“There are protests of varying sizes outside that building probably six days a week,” he said. Sometimes the protests attract as many as 200 people, but “most days there are a dozen people there.”

or what they call them in my neighborhood, a terrorist
Why else than to terrorize people are the violent threats against PP. The over the top rhetoric --
how the man say, "coming home to roost"

Let's talk about the videos and demonize the health care providers that work in side or even just the secretaries and janitors.
Or in this case people that share a parking lot !!!
Shoot if y'all characterize people that support a woman's right to choice "baby killers " (then call for civility in public discourse ) ... well, the next step is violence

Along the lines the Palin "bullseye" on Gabby Giffords"
What goes around, comes around

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/28/us...=top-news&_r=0

[57Brave]

This point:

Joan Walsh Retweeted
Alice Dreger ‏@AliceDreger 2h2 hours ago

I am asking seriously: Has there ever been an instance of a pro-choice activist shooting a "pro-life" activist?
20 retweets 11 likes

[57Brave]

Correction.

1 dead, not 8

[NinersSBChamps]

This point:

Joan Walsh Retweeted
Alice Dreger ‏@AliceDreger 2h2 hours ago

I am asking seriously: Has there ever been an instance of a pro-choice activist shooting a "pro-life" activist?
20 retweets 11 likes

Pro choice people only kill babies.

[weso1]

Correction.

1 dead, not 8

Disappointed?

[mossy]

Disappointed?

That did seem to damper the open celebration 57 had going.

[goldfly]

3 dead

also, we should call this person what he is, a terrorist

[Runnin]

3 dead

also, we should call this person what he is, a terrorist

Thankfully not a very good one.

[57Brave]

Our civilization has a mechanism in place to change laws.
Should that mechanism not work in your favor, hopefully you would work the political end smarter and harder to change the law. Rather than rely on bombs and guns.

We disagree - why can't some respect that.

[57Brave]

Because democraticly what you are saying is your opinion is more valuable than mine.

[Hawk]

Because democraticly.

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[57Brave]

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One of the earliest attacks was made against the non-profit Boulder Valley (Colorado) Clinic that 14 others and I co-founded in 1973, still operating today as the Boulder Valley Women’s Health Center. The attacker struck at night with a Molotov Cocktail. But, the building then housing the clinic had been a residence previously and the attackers mistakenly hit the building’s garage. The Fire Department put out the blaze quickly and the clinic itself was unharmed, but the staff and we board members were shaken. Little did we know how much further these forced-birthers would take things.

More than 40 years later, these attacks continue and yet the media and prominent leaders refuse to call them what they are: terrorism meant to intimidate people from working at or being a client at these facilities. Among the encouragers of these terrorists are people who create lying videos about Planned Parenthood selling baby parts and pundits both prominent and obscure who verbally attack abortion clinics every day from their electronic podiums.

The acts of these encouragers may not be prosecutable but they are nonetheless morally criminal. These cowards need to be called out for the terrorists and terrorist enablers they are.

[Hawk]

You co-founded the Clinic?

[Runnin]

Because democraticly what you are saying is your opinion is more valuable than mine.

What they are saying is that they refuse to accept the democratic process.

[Hawk]

Our civilization has a mechanism in place to change laws.
Should that mechanism not work in your favor, hopefully you would work the political end smarter and harder to change the law. Rather than rely on bombs and guns.

We disagree - why can't some respect that.

Um, what? This doesn't even sound like you.

Tell that to the suffragettes. Tell that to African Americans. Tell that to the Stonewall rioters.

[57Brave]

or use them as examples.
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"This doesn't even sound like you."

I strongly oppose the profiteers of weapons.
Have I posted doctored videos or advocated bombing the entrances or threatened the homes and families of workers in munitions plants.
Has anyone that agrees with my stance done that ?

yeah, tell the suffragettes - tell them what ? By the 21st century they will be free to chose what happens inside their bodies without fear of being damned and demonized.
Tell them that womens health clinics will be secure?
Probably not the example you meant.

The numbers/situations coming out this past year on police brutality aimed at African-Americans is frightening.
One poster I saw commented on the gunman in Colorado Springs was taken alive. Yet a black teen was shot down because the police thought he had a knife
Not the example you wanted Hawk, wanna try again?

I will leave the Stonewall rioters up to you.
Methinks you get the point

[Hawk]

Your original post encouraged people that disagreed with the 'mechanism' to work harder to politically persuade it.

You do you realize that those groups I mentioned achieved political persuasion through apolitical means, right? They planted the seeds for revolution and spent decades cajoling society to action.

You do realize that 'working the political end' connotes lobbying, right?

Or are you going to try and backtrack and say that you were being glib -- or that those words weren't even yours (who knows anymore?)

I'm just trying to hold you accountable for your posts and encourage you to hash our your own thoughts entirely instead of desperately trying to grapple the whatever the digital liberal posse is promulgating. Because what I'm seeing here is contrarian ... across the board.

[57Brave]

yeah, get Roe v Wade changed.
About as accountable as one can be.

Hawk, I'm too ole and it takes up too much energy to adopt a contrarian lifestyle
why we have Bedell

[Hawk]

yeah, get Roe v Wade changed.

It wouldn't be that difficult. That is, if the people demanded it.

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Distillation is key here. Let's stop grasping at straws.

[Hawk]

Agence France-Presse
@AFP
#BREAKING Obama says 'enough is enough' after latest US shooting

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Mhm. How many times has Obama echoed this empty line?