Was just listening to Plush in the car today. Damn.
Forever Fredi
Just woke up to see this. Not really shocked. He was probably the hardest drug user from the 90s alt rock scene still alive. Even if it wasn't an OD (i recall him getting sober recently0 the years of abuse have to have takena toll on his body. Sad to hear, hopefully everyone respects the space his family will need. RIP scott.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
chop2chip (12-04-2015)
I feel bad for his kids. I can't feel too bad for someone who has knowingly and willingly been killing themselves over the past 20 years. Hope the dude finds peace now.
You can't feel bad for someone who has an addiction even when it's publicized how hard they fought to overcome it?Originally Posted by Krgrecw
"Willingly" is such an inappropriate word to use.
Last edited by chop2chip; 12-04-2015 at 03:17 PM.
Well maybe don't do the drugs in the first place?
So you can't feel sorry for someone because they made a mistake 30 years ago?
To say someone who has a SEVERE drug addiction that has put himself in and out and in and out of rehab to get clean is willingly killing his self feels so unsympathetic, cynical, and heartless. I hope that the people who truly feel that way never have people in their life that struggle with addiction because they obviously don't have the capacity, or heart, to help them.
I do feel bad for the guy, but you are under the assumption that the dude did and tried everything he could possibly do to get clean. He walked out of so many rehabs and got arrested again and again. He had wives, kids and millions of dollars but he chose drugs over that.
I feel bad and sad for the people who were murdered at San Bernardino and the people who were shot down in Paris but too feel that bad for a junkie?
Garmel (12-04-2015), NinersSBChamps (12-04-2015)
I'm stealing from reddit here
"I've worked in Las Vegas casinos my entire adult life. I worked at The Palms during the Real World days and when it was considered "Celebrity Friendly" which really just meant they were allowed to go do whatever they wanted comfortably as paparazzi where not welcomed. Over the near 5 years I worked there I can honestly say I met over 2000 celebrities. The ones who you thought would be the coolest were the biggest douchbags and the ones who you thought would be the biggest douchbags were the coolest. The coolest person I've ever met and got to hang out with was without a doubt Kid Rock. I couldn't stand a single song of his and this being 2007ish it was way before it was widely known how nice he is so it came as a shock.
Then there are those who break your heart. They say never meet your heroes. Meeting Scott Weiland did this to me from growing up a huge STP fan but in end showing me why he was a rock star and not I. There used (is) to be a band called Camp Freddy. It was pretty much a revolving door of musicians who would play each other's songs depending on who was available and they were playing at The Palms one night with Scott Weiland due to headline. My restaurants kitchen had a door that went straight onto to the stage of the club Rain where concerts were held before The Pearl concert venue was built and anytime there was a show we were allowed to just walk through and watch the shows from the stage which I was planning to do the second I was off. Halfway through my shift we got an order for Scott and it needed to be brought to his room which we accommodated to celebrities frequently. As luck would have it I randomly got grabbed and told to take his ribeye up to him. I went up to his room and knocked on the door and heard somebody yell "It's open". I figured I was going to open the door and 30 groupie whores would be inside all coked up, but nope. It was just Scott laying halfway on the bed with a near empty bottle of Jack in his hand watching the movie Last Days which is "loosely" based on Kurt Cobain's life. I'm really good at being a professional and not acting star struck. Celebrities, the cool ones, like being treated like normal people and they treat you much better when you do. As I'm unwrapping his food he starts talking to me and asking me about myself. He was **** faced, slurring and emotional. He began telling me about what bull**** that movie was and how Kurt wasn't like he was portrayed in it. He told me how there was originally a different video for the song Creep that was directed by the same director as the movie, Gus Van Sant, and that he made the band dress up like transsexuals and kiss each other and before I knew it I had been up there nearly an hour. His assistant came in and called me outside of the room and thanked me for hanging out with him, no thank you was necessary, but that Scott had recently quit heroin again and that's why he was acting that way. I went back down to work and couldn't believe that just happened but then remembered that he was supposed perform in less than 2 hours. In my mind there was absolutely no way this guy was going to be able to perform and he'd have to cancel further ruining his depleting reputation.
So I finished up work and went onto the back stage. Over the course of an hour I watched Dave Navarro, Jerry Cantrell, Duff Mcaggen, the singer from The Cult, etc perform and in my head I thought I knew some thing nobody else did and that shortly it would be announced Scott Weiland was canceling. When all of a sudden Dead and Bloated starts playing and Scott comes out dancing, singing perfectly and absolutely killed his performance. That night I learned the difference between a rock star and the rest of us. RIP."
It's one of many similar stories I"ve read about Weiland, he had issues. He was bipolar, and perhaps his biggest fault was hanging out with Courtney Love who's just a vile person. But being an addict doesn't make one bad. Many people it's how they cope.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
If I am under any assumption it's that it's not my place to judge if somebody took enough steps to overcome their addiction. I have never had a serious addiction, so I don't pretend to understand the mechanics of one. All I know is that the man fought a heroin addiction for 30(!) years. I'm not going to sit in an ivory tower and tell a person that he "willingly... chose" his own death, over his own family no less, and that he is exempt from sympathy.
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