57 believe the government owns all land and all people
57 believe the government owns all land and all people
I sympathize with the Hammonds. To a point.
On the other hand, I hear a lot of talk about inner city people that they should move if the situations prove difficult. Or if someone lives in a bad neighborhood they should simply move.
Well the same applies to the Hammonds and the Bundys. Or me for that matter. If the situation is bad either change it peacefully or find another line of work.
Or to your way of thinking does that only apply to people of color ?
The Bundy Family symbolize everything that is wrong with Right Wing anti-government movement.
Just like armed black groups of the early 70's symbolized everything that was wrong with the Black Pride movement
Or the Weathermen symbolized everything wrong with the anit war movement of the same period
......
But for Chists Sake, the building is a Bird Sanctuary Welcome center in the middle of nowhere that was closed for the holidays. C'mon man
Even you have to admit that is kinda lame
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
It's beyond lame. "Look at us! We own guns!"
Have any of the laws, or rules, or practices, or anything else really, that Clive's boy and his friends are pissed off about, changed since Obama became president? I am not up on what all this is about so they may really have a point (or may not) I'm really just asking for some facts here. After we establish a baseline of some actual truths I may (or may not) comment more.
I honestly don't know. There's been an on-going war in the West between ranchers and environmental types over the past 100 years and this is an outgrowth of that. I suppose that any time the BLM changes its mind on a land-use issue, it becomes, by extension to these folks, a direct order from the President (in this case Obama). The other side reacts as goofily, just not with a display of firearms.
I'm commenting more about the parading around with guns more than anything else. It just seems stupid.
jpx7 (01-04-2016)
Everytime I see BLM
I get BlackLivesMatter and Bureau of Land Management mixed up.
Forever Fredi
50PoundHead (01-04-2016), Garmel (01-04-2016), jpx7 (01-04-2016)
THe issue to me is the gov't is going after their land because they want the oil/natural resources and aren't properly compensating the farmers. It's basically the gov't saying we want that land because we can make a **** ton of money on it so we are going to just take it.
"Yes, I did think Aldrich was good UNTIL I SAW HIM PLAY. "- thethe
http://www.infowars.com/hammonds-tar...al-their-land/
Also, many of the leases were forced onto these ranchers so they could continue to farm.
And an even worse look for the government is allowing a judge to return those two guys to jail for an additional 5 years.
And while, I don't agree with the "armed takeover," just a note that these buildings were vacant and no property or persons have been injured.
Last edited by gilesfan; 01-04-2016 at 04:06 PM.
"Yes, I did think Aldrich was good UNTIL I SAW HIM PLAY. "- thethe
mossy (01-04-2016)
liberals storm government buildings in protest all the time and have to be escorted out. Funny we didn't hear the same grump from 57 during the Wisconsin union protests. Code Pink is constantly doing stupid crap.
thank you weso1!
Here is a longer version:
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/...y-persecution/
"Yes, I did think Aldrich was good UNTIL I SAW HIM PLAY. "- thethe
Definitely a fraught issue. National Forest management is weird, because it's not pure (or mostly pure) nature-conservation (like National Parks or Monuments), but instead a domain of highly-regulated resource-extraction.
"For all his tattooings he was on the whole a clean, comely looking cannibal."
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...cent-discount/
And
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-no...cart_big-photo
Hooray for domestic terrorism!
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
The revolution was terrorism for sure.
And the fact that the nearby town isn't having school because they're scared of these people clearly makes them terrorists. They've got people in a watch tower, they've got people standing guard. If they had a tie to ISIS people would be ****ting themselves.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg