why would you think building trade jobs could be filled over night?
Many of those positions take years of apprenticeships and training.
Who will train electricians,brick layers and plumbers ?
Many of the people Trumpwishes to deport come to USA after working those jobs for years.
And, willing to work 16 hours a day 7 days a week
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of course, or are you playing mister obvious today.
We do not have skilled craftsmen to fulfill the infrastructure upgrade promises made
We do not have the numbers to pick all of the fruit that will go bad in the fields
This is not a good idea.
On any level outside of scapegoating
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is to make sure he doesn’t get a gun.
Geting back on topic.
Do we have the pipe fitters required to re-do the worn out pipes in inner cities ?
WE don't have unions to oversee Apprentice, Journeyman programs that have been the training for generations of trade workers
Hooray -- we've eliminated the unions
How short sighted your school of thought is
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So you disproved my information by confirming?
8 times as many undocumented as US born farmers and about twice as many in service (restaurant) Which again, have you ever worked in the industry? Because they're doing the jobs that most don't really want to do in that industry.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
Yeah, I'm not sure how the changes in those numbers substantively affect the big picture.
The trend is that illegals are doing different menial entry level jobs that almost no US citizen really wants to do? At least really doesn't want to do for a short period of time?
I'm sorry, but the facts are the facts, illegals are a problem, but banning them isn't the solution. An easier path to citizenship to get them to pay taxes is the solution. Or if you want to ban illegals punish people who hire illegals. Nothing will stop them if they just get a slap on the wrist and their help gets deported which they can replace with someone else.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
I'm just not sure why the comprehensive immigration reform knocked down by House republicans in the last congress isn't a better solution.
Again, this argument is over a decade old. Repeating it over and over again (while referencing the Mexican dishwashers you know) doesn't make it any less stale, outdated, or culturally ignorant.
Do FOB illegals often settle for undesirable jobs that are tantamount to slave labor? Yes.
Do they continue working these jobs for extended periods of time? No.
Do they have families? Children? Yes.
Are they also part of the illegal workforce? Yes.
Did you read past the first sentence of the study I linked? No.
Are you blindly ignoring the evolution of the immigrant community at-large over the past 10 years? Yes.
Ok. Sure. Your non-existent facts are 'the facts' ... so I'll refrain from saying anything about how utterly one dimensional your viewpoint here is.I'm sorry, but the facts are the facts, illegals are a problem, but banning them isn't the solution. An easier path to citizenship to get them to pay taxes is the solution. Or if you want to ban illegals punish people who hire illegals. Nothing will stop them if they just get a slap on the wrist and their help gets deported which they can replace with someone else.
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I'm sorry but I personally know no illegals who have jobs beyond the menial. I'm sure there are some, but I'm guessing it's a small percentage.
And it's not the last decade, immigrants have been doing ****ty work for pretty much the entirety of the US. Who built the railroads? Who worked the ****ty factory conditions of early industrial revolution? Etc.
Stockholm, more densely populated than NYC - sturg
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